Meditation and Yoga: a Deeper Look into Occult Practices that are Deceiving Christians Today

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We’ve received questions about meditation and yoga. The first email you will see was more of a comment rather than a question, but I am going to address it anyway, since many Christians share the same viewpoints. On the other hand, the second two emails were sincere inquiries into the practices they were involved in.

Questions:

Email 1 is mainly about meditation (specifically TM — transcendental meditation) with a mention of Yoga thrown into the mix. It reads in part as follows:

… I am a Christian and I have been meditating for over 40 years. I started doing TM when I was in college and still do it to this day. I stopped using the mantra when I became a Christian. I’ve prayed about this many times and feel that God has given me the “green light” on this. I have chronic fatigue syndrome and meditating to me is just a deep form of relaxation and “rebooting” and really helps me with fatigue and stress.

I don’t think it’s any different than sleep; I wouldn’t be able to reach that state unless God gave me that ability in the first place. I don’t invite spirits in no more than I would if sleeping or any other activity. I think one would want or ask the demons in — gave them permission so to speak. I don’t believe what I’m doing is inviting in any “unwanted” guests. I do believe that channeled beings are demonic and I’m pretty much on board with most of what you believe. I have done some yoga in the past and really think one can do some of it with out inviting in spirits. That’s what I believe.

… I have been sober 27 years and I must be doing something right.

Email 2 is about Yoga, and it reads in part as follows:

I’m a Christian. I do not want to dishonor God in any way in the things I do, and I want to communicate the love of Jesus Christ with every breath I take and in all my actions, in my work.

…I’ve gone to yoga classes, and find that the positions/exercise help my ‘getting older’ body to feel a whole lot better. Less pain, more flexibility. During the meditative periods, I pray, sometimes with focus on a situation or person I am concerned for. Those exercises have helped me to calm my mind. Not emptying it, but to be able to get calm and focus my thoughts.

Now, I read about the dangers of it, and I would like some clarification. I do not feel bad about it in any way, but I am also aware that I could be wrong!

…”Yoga” keeps coming up as something that Christians should not do.

Email 3 is about Reiki, with a mention of Yoga. The subject of Reiki will be discussed in a later post, but the email reads in part as follows:

I have been a Christian since ‘76. I have been going to a Crainosacral therapist for a year because of a car accident. Just last week she was explaining about her therapy and talked about Reiki. I talked about this with some knowledgeable Christians who have been missionaries in India and they explained that Reiki and Yoga is of Satan and I am opening the door to Satan and his demons. Please help me understand this as I certainly don’t want to do anything to displease the Lord or open myself up to evil.


Before you read any further, I’d like to tell you that in the process of writing this article, I came under severe demonic attack, specifically by demons who sometimes go by the Sanskrit name, Ardhanarishvara, who is said to be a composite of both Shiva, the so-called “lord of yoga” and “patron god” of yoga, meditation and arts, as well as his “female partner,” Parvati.

And no, I am not familiar with Hindu “gods,” but after I was attacked, I made use of Google search and Wikipedia articles to see if I could find out what demons just came against me, because they were very specific in their appearance and in what they said to me. I wasn’t at all shocked to see that these are some of the demonic beings who are pushing forward this end-time agenda of meditation, including that through yoga. They were very angry at me for writing and planning to publish this article, and they don’t want me to do it.

If you’re reading this, you’ve probably guessed what I decided to do anyway. 😉

Here’s how I put it to Carolyn: “The demons gotta do what the demons gotta do, and I gotta do what I gotta do.”

‘Nuff said.

They also do not want you reading this article, and they certainly don’t want you reading with understanding.

I don’t say any of this out of some strange sense of “pride.” There are probably many other articles and books that have been written as a warning against yoga, meditation, and other occult practices, and although I’ve done my best with putting together this information for you, I’m sure many of those articles are probably written much better than mine. So I know it’s not me the demonic are afraid of, but they are afraid of the truth. In exposing their tricks and in exposing how they have deceived and continue to deceive many Christians, this article is in direct opposition to Satan’s end-time plan, and they aren’t happy about it.

Let me remind you of what Carolyn and I wrote in our book about Satan’s end-time plan:1

The ultimate goal is to train people, through occult doctrines and techniques, to come into agreement with and enter into a false “unity,” also known as “Christ Consciousness” (among other phrases), thinning the veil between the spirit world and the physical world, thereby paving the way for the false Christ (the final Antichrist) to appear. (p 25)

We also expressed the following:

“This end-time agenda is encouraging people to open themselves up to demonic influence and possession … by inserting doctrines of demons that are leading people, through deception, to purposefully open themselves up to demonic influence and control.” (pp 25-26)

This agenda very much includes meditation and yoga.

So I say all this to give you warning and to simply advise you to take some time now, before you continue reading the rest of this article, to pray to the Heavenly Father that He will protect you as you read, giving you wisdom and understanding as you read.

(And in case you’ve forgotten what we’ve written in our book and on our blog articles, your prayer doesn’t have to be complicated and drawn out. 🙂 You don’t need a formula prayer. Just ask the Father for what you have need of, and then have faith and trust that He will supply your needs according to His will.)

Answer:

My response to these individuals begins with some questions of my own:

1. Is it okay to engage in occult activities if you call yourself a Christian when you do it and if you don’t do it in exactly the same way non-Christian people do? How far are you willing to go to justify your actions? For instance:

Would it be okay to play around with a Ouija board if it had Bible verses inscribed around the board? (or angels, as in this example)2

Would it be okay to consult a medium if they called themselves a Christian? What if they called themselves a “prophet or seer” and went to your church or attended your Bible study? Is it acceptable to seek their advise under these circumstances?

Would it be okay to play tarot cards if they had pictures of Jesus on them? What if the tarot cards were renamed “Christian Destiny Cards?”3

Since you are a Christian, is it okay to read your horoscope if you are just doing it for kicks and not taking it seriously? What if you took it seriously, but justified your actions because “the Magi in the Bible followed the stars?”

Is it okay to get your cards, tea leaves, or palm read, as long as you are just joking around and you still claim to be a Christian? What if the occultist giving you a reading claimed to be a Christian and claimed to be using those things simply as avenues through which to receive guidance from the “spirit” or “guardian angels?” Would it be okay then?

Since you call yourself a Christian, is it okay for you to have a séance if you are only doing it for fun and not taking it seriously? What if you are participating simply to not offend those around you?

2. If a loved one died and you were having difficultly coping with their death and you went to a medium to get in contact with their supposed “spirit” (this practice is known as “necromancy”) so you could feel better, would you try to justify this action as easily as you try to justify practicing meditation or yoga?

3. Since you call yourself a Christian, how far are you willing to go to purposefully involve yourself in the spiritual rituals and practices of other religions that stand in opposition and defiance to the Heavenly Father?

For instance, would you to go to a Hindu or Buddhist temple to meditate? What if it’s a yoga studio where you meditate? Would it be acceptable under these circumstances?

What about going to other similar types of non-Christian mosques, temples, churches, or holy places? What about a Satanic temple? Would you feel confident going to a Satanic temple to pray and meditate? What if you didn’t pray and meditate in quite the same way that they were? Would it make it okay then?

What about kneeling before, kissing, praying to, or offering gifts or tokens to the statues or portraits of the various “gods, goddesses, saints, et cetera” that may be portrayed in such places. Would it be permissible for you to do this as long as in your heart you knew that you were only doing it out of respect for their religious customs, or perhaps to not offend others, or maybe because you believe that participating in such activity is not something that is religious in and of itself?

How far are you willing to go to involve yourself in that which is displeasing to your Heavenly Father?

4. What spiritual benefits does yoga and meditation offer you that the Heavenly Father is unable to supply for you?

5. Why do you think that yoga is the only form of “exercise” that can give you physical and mental health benefits?

6. Since you call yourself a Christian, is it acceptable for you to practice occult activities if it is simply to feel better and not to necessarily get in contact with demons or not to purposefully open yourself up to the demonic?

How far are you willing to go to justify your occult activities?

Here’s the truth: all occult activity opens you up to the demonic. It doesn’t matter if you call yourself a Christian or an atheist, if you engage in occult activity you are opening yourself up to the demonic. You don’t have to verbally invite the demonic into your spiritual space. If you engage in occult activity, you are giving them permission, and they will enter!

In other words, it doesn’t matter if you say: “I’m going to practice occult activities, but since I’m a Christian, I rebuke the demons that try to invade my spiritual space when I do these things, and refuse to allow them entrance.”

It doesn’t work that way. All you have to do is engage in activities that are outside of sound, Biblical teaching, and you have left a door wide open for the demonic to enter. This is why the demonic entice you and deceive you, so you will open the doors for them to enter into you. When you engage in ungodly activities, you are giving them permission to enter into you and take over. Calling yourself a “Christian” and claiming Jesus Christ doesn’t protect you from the consequences of your actions!

With these things in mind, let’s carefully look at these activities — meditation and yoga — and answer the question: are they something that Christians should be involved in without any misgivings, second thoughts, or concerns?

Meditation

Carolyn and I used the word “meditation” in our book in several different places: thirty-two times, to be exact, with the word “meditate” being used three times. While we gave some examples of how Christians are getting caught up in ungodly activities through meditation (such as astral travel and interacting with demons that are disguised as various spiritual beings), and we described some of the effects that it has (see: Seat of Dominion and Sprit Man), we didn’t really specifically dissect meditation as a practice on its own, nor did we meticulously compare so-called “christian” occult meditation with a “non-christian” occult meditation.

I am going to do that now with this article, and I’ll speak on the following topics:

1. A brief history of meditation;
2. The definitions of meditation;
3. Meditation as is commonly practiced within “Christian” groups (as I am most familiar with charismatic groups, I share from this perspective);
4. Warnings about meditation;
5. What is happening in the spirit realms when you meditate;
6. What the Word of God says about meditation;
7. And finally, I will give a response to the first email we received on meditation.

⇒ History of Meditation 4

Meditation as an occult practice began within ancient, mystic religions, with the earliest references to meditation being in India, from which was born yoga. It first began as a way to gain understanding of a “higher being” or “god,” and as the practice spread, it evolved into an attempt to understand one’s “interrelatedness with all things.”

There are currently different schools of thought arising from these same two main concepts, but simply put, they are speaking to a type of “spiritual evolution” through which one may reach “god,” either within or without, achieving a “god-like status” for oneself in one way or another. Other ways of describing this concept include: becoming one with the Divine, Enlightenment, understanding the Divine within oneself, unity with universal consciousness or with the Christ consciousness, raising or expanding consciousness, Nirvana, Zen, et cetera.

☛ Important to Note: Different occultists will explain this concept of “interrelatedness” in different ways, but if you aren’t familiar with this particular line of thinking, it is speaking to the ideas behind “emanationism,” an occult philosophy that is clearly spoken against in Scripture. (See: 1 Timothy 1:4, 1 Timothy 4:7, 2 Timothy 4:4, and Titus 1:14.)

Emanationism is foundational to what is called “quantum or fractal spirituality,” an occult concept that has quickly taken root in Christianity. This topic is covered in our book, and you can read it on our blog here:

https://askcarolynandloren.com/book/section-three-some-teachings-and-practices/i-spirit-man/#point-7-occult-teachings

Another good source you can read to understand about this “quantum or fractal spirituality” is found at:

http://apprising.org/2012/05/30/quantum-mysticism-in-the-church/

An occult meditation is essentially speaking to searching deep within oneself to find a solution to one’s own problems outside of God and Scripture.

In modern times, there are countless adaptations of meditation, and it is used in numerous cultures for a variety of reasons. But the foundational concepts are the same: meditation is used as a way to connect to “god” or to “the divine,” whether within or without, and as a way to understand one’s own “interrelatedness” or “connection with” all things.

The biggest two lies that have been perpetrated through westernized culture onto Christianity, causing many to fall into deception and into accepting this practice as being “okay” for Christians, basically says the following:

1. Meditation is not a religious activity;
2. Meditation is more for physical, emotional and mental health benefits than anything else.

The first lie is tricky, because while the argument could be made that meditation is not limited to any one religion, and while it’s true that even the atheistic or the non-religious practice meditation, it is most definitely a spiritual activity. Furthermore, the very history of meditation proves that it is a spiritual activity whose esoteric teachings are foundational to certain religions, specifically the mystic religions of India, where this occult practice originated. Try convincing the practitioners of such religions that meditation is not a religious activity!

So regardless of one’s religious or non-religious affiliations, meditation is an esoteric, spiritual activity that is a large component within certain religions.

☛ A Side Note: The etymological meaning of occult is “hidden or secret,” and is speaking to an “esoteric” knowledge which comes over time to those people who study and seek after what is hidden or secret. So I call meditation “esoteric teachings” because there are teachings about meditation that are hidden (occult) from those who first begin practicing.

The second lie is tricky as well, in part because many people feel good when they meditate, and there is some evidence suggesting that participating in such activity may be beneficial to one’s health in various ways. However, as we wrote in our book and as I am reiterating in this article, what “feels good” is not always what is good. I’ll go into greater detail in a moment, but ultimately, meditation is opening people’s spiritual space to being invaded by the demonic and to being connected to the spirit of the antichrist. We spoke of this very same principle throughout our book, and this is the same for any occult activity that you involve yourself in.

But while meditation may make many people “feel good,” there are dangers of meditation that even those who are advocates of such practices warn about. It’s not very common to hear of such warnings, no, but they are out there, particularly for transcendental meditation (TM).

⇒ Meditation: What it is and What it is Not

Before I discuss the dangers of meditation, let me get these quick points out of the way:

▷ Relaxing, unwinding, rebooting — whatever word you want to use — is not meditation. An occult meditation can be one way that some people try to relax, unwind, or reboot, but there are many different ways to relax, unwind, or reboot without actually engaging in what is known as “meditation.” I’ll offer a few suggestions momentarily.

▷ Purposefully slowing your breathing and relaxing each muscle of your body as a way to help you fall asleep is not meditation. Neither is concentrating on taking deep, slow, even breaths as a way to work through pain or emotional distress, or, believe it or not, as a way to give birth in a less painful and quicker way (given normal circumstances, of course), necessarily meditation. Focusing on breathing is often an important component of meditation, but in and of itself, intentionally regulating your breathing patterns is not occult meditation.

The following statements are also true:

▷ You don’t have to practice meditation in order to battle high blood pressure, to overcome addictions, or to be physically fit. There are other safe, non-occult options.

▷ You can practice loving kindness and have compassion towards others, even those who have set themselves against you, without engaging in a “loving kindness meditation.” 5

Here’s a hint: read the Bible to find out how to follow God’s standards and have compassion and loving kindness towards others.

▷ You can find healing from trauma injuries and dissociative disorders without “mindfulness meditation.” (I’ll speak more on this type of meditation in a moment.)

Here’s a hint: foster a relationship with your Heavenly Father and allow Him to bring healing to you. Carolyn and I give some suggestions concerning this in our book, and you can read them on our blog here:

● Finding Freedom
https://askcarolynandloren.com/book/section-four-important-helps/ii-finding-freedom/

● Thoughts on Healing
https://askcarolynandloren.com/book/section-four-important-helps/viii-other-helps-regarding-dissociative-disorders/#thoughts-on-healing

▷ You can also stay present and focused in your every day life, finding peace and a reduction in stress levels, without “mindfulness meditation.”

Here’s a hint: allow your Heavenly Father to give you peace, teach you patience, give you understanding, and build your character as He teaches you to focus on Him and to bring Him honor and glory in everything that you do and say in your life.

So what is meditation?

There are only three basic types of meditation.

1. Meditation that simply means “contemplation, reflection, or planning in the mind” with no occult meaning whatsoever.
2. Occult meditation according to human standards with all of its variations, using different names, and being practiced by those within many different religions, including self-proclaimed Christians, as well as by those who consider themselves to be non-religious or atheistic.
3. Meditation according to God’s standards, found in the written Word of God.

According to the Merriam-Webster online dictionary, “to meditate” means:

1. to engage in contemplation or reflection;
2. to engage in mental exercise (such as concentration on one’s breathing or repetition of a mantra) for the purpose of reaching a heightened level of spiritual awareness; (My note: this is the occult side of meditation)
3. to focus one’s thoughts on, reflect on or ponder over;
4. to plan or project in the mind.

To be more precise: in the occult sense, meditation is the purposeful action of focusing one’s thoughts and emotions using a series of steps to achieve an altered state of mind to varying degrees, and through this altered state of mind, to have diverse types of spiritual experiences and emotions.

This altered state of mind can also be called “dissociation,” and has been described in this way by some who practice or have practiced different forms of meditation. Other words used to describe this dissociation can include: disconnecting, separating, isolating, or detaching.

This dissociation within meditative practices can be anywhere from mild to severe, but whether or not the participator realizes, it is a state of mind that actually causes them to be open to both human and demonic suggestion, as well as to demonic control, and even human control to a certain extent.

☛ Important to Note: The type of dissociation that is occurring within the spiritual practices of meditation is not the same type of dissociation that occurs naturally, such as daydreaming. Furthermore, psychologically speaking, there is a difference between dissociation as a disorder that comes about through trauma, and dissociation through a religious or spiritual practice.

So when I talk about a “mild dissociation” within meditative practices that is leading people to becoming open to human and demonic suggestion and control, I’m not speaking of a mild form of a typical type of dissociation, such as daydreaming. But I am speaking of a form of dissociation that is atypical, coming about through unsafe spiritual practices.

However, as I will talk about in a moment, practicing meditation can lead to a debilitating dissociation. While this debilitation is not brought about through the same types of trauma that will typically cause a dissociative disorder, when people open themselves up to the demonic, there is a spiritual trauma that takes place, whether they are aware of it or not, and this spiritual trauma can cause a type of dissociation. And as I will detail later in this article, this dissociation can be very debilitating for many, turning into a type of “dissociative disorder” that has been brought about through spiritually traumatic practices.

I would be shocked if there are many psychologists or mental health professionals out there who would agree with my assessment on a “debilitating dissociation brought about by unsafe spiritual practices,” but I still stand by what I have said.

Carolyn and I wrote about this phenomenon in our book, and you can read about it on pages 78-79, or you can go here to read it on our blog:

https://askcarolynandloren.com/book/section-three-some-teachings-and-practices/i-spirit-man/#spirit-man-did

You can also read a short description of dissociative disorders here:

https://askcarolynandloren.com/book/section-four-important-helps/viii-other-helps-regarding-dissociative-disorders/#overview

But back to the article… 🙂

The steps of how to achieve this dissociative state can vary according to what type of meditation is being used. Some require a focus on breathing, and some use a focus on a particular thought, mantra, sound, or on a physical object. Other types of meditation do not require a deliberate focus on any particular thought, sensation, or object (almost like a “free association,” such as with “mindfulness meditation”), while the technique of other types of meditation is to have no focus on anything at all (a “blank slate,” or “an empty mind,” in other words). In some cases, the techniques can be combined, as well.

Although the method through which this meditative state is achieved can begin by focus (or a non-focus), with certain types of meditation there can also be music or musical tones, chants, or mantras used, including texts from religious books that they consider to be holy, or even verses from the Bible. But it’s not necessary.

Sometimes there are particular poses that are used in conjunction with this meditation, as is with yoga, but those involved in meditative practices can achieve this altered state of mind by assuming any physical position that helps them focus their mind and emotions.

Additionally, some meditation practices use scents, incense, visual aides or manipulatives, or even mind-altering drugs to enhance meditation or to aid in achieving an altered state of mind. But again, it’s not necessary. It all depends upon what type and style of meditation the individual is practicing.

On the “lower” or more basic levels (what many deceived Christians practice), the meditation is deceptively simple, and can include things such as meditation within a basic Hatha yoga (more on this in the next section), and the different practices of Sati, popular forms of meditation that are often referred to as “mindfulness meditation,” such as Vipassana.

If you are practicing meditation on your own without any teacher or coach, the steps can be very simple: focus on breathing and practice dissociating (disconnecting, separating, isolating, detaching) yourself from physical sensations, thoughts, or emotions you are experiencing at that moment. This dissociation doesn’t necessarily mean that you don’t feel or think, but rather that you teach yourself to become more like an observer of the feelings and thoughts instead of a participator. As a result of dissociating from your physical sensations, thoughts, and emotions, spiritual experiences are had to one degree or another.

This is essentially a “mindfulness meditation” (detailed in the next section), and is a very basic way to meditate. It can also lead to results that are exactly the same as a more in-depth transcendental meditation, particularly with those who have a knack for entering into a dissociative state, such as with those who already have dissociative disorders to one degree or another.

Example: Mindfulness Meditation 6

Before we examine “mindfulness meditation,” I have to point out that a simple look into this practice even on Wikipedia will show you that mindfulness “forms an essential part of Buddhist practice.” So ignore the people who tell you, “Mindfulness meditation is non-religious!” In your research, you’ll likely come across multitudes of people who say this.

To me, the situation feels like the story of “The Emperor’s New Clothes,” where everyone is insisting that the Emperor’s new (and highly expensive) clothes are lovely and beautiful and sumptuous and ever-so-lovely. And the colors! And the texture! And the form! And the pattern! And the ruffles! And the feathers! And the train!

But there’s one little boy who dares to point out, “But he’s naked! The Emperor has no clothes!”

That’s what it feels like to me, when I see article after article and hear person after person parrot the same mantra (pardon the pun), “Mindfulness meditation is non-religious!”

And I’m over here, scratching my head, looking at the evidence right in front of my eyes, and wondering why everyone else is so blind: “Uhh… yes it is!

It’s like they are a bunch of mind-controlled robot parrots, all insisting the same thing, as if repeating the same lie over and over again will somehow make the lie to be truth.7 

No, there aren’t “Buddhist police” out there who will force you to “convert” to Buddhism so you can be allowed to practice mindfulness meditation. Not that I’m aware of, anyway. But the beliefs surrounding this “mindfulness” certainly are a HUGE component of Buddhism (research it!), and when you practice mindfulness meditation, you are engaging in the religious practices of mystic religions. If this doesn’t bother you, then go for it! Go mindfully meditate yourself away, all you want! But if you call yourself a Christian (a follower of Jesus Christ), then you won’t be involved in something that is not of God and in something that is actually leading you away from Him.

Now let’s take a closer look at “mindfulness meditation.”

As with understanding anything occult, you have to learn to read between the lines in order to fully comprehend what it is they are saying and what they mean by what they say. You have to ignore the doublespeak and look for the hidden meanings, and if you learn to critically analyze everything said or done, then you are less likely to be fooled.

So as an example of how to “read between the lines,” let’s look at how they describe this very basic and popular meditation, and what is really meant by what they are describing. (In footnote 6, you can see the list of resources I used to compile this information for you.)

“Mindfulness meditation” (some simply say “practicing mindfulness”) is a tricky phrase, because it sounds innocent enough, but once you look into it, it is not.

Being “mindful” simply means to be conscious or aware of something. There’s nothing occult about this. However, “mindfulness meditation” is not the same as being “aware or conscious.” In fact, it could be said that it is just the opposite of being aware and conscious, in spite of what the mind-controlled robot parrots are trying to brainwash you into believing.

There are different forms of mindfulness meditation and meditation-based offshoots, MBSR (Mindfulness-Based Stress Reduction) being one of them that is popular, especially in the States. But according to practitioners of meditation, mindfulness meditation is supposed to “help your mind stay focused in the present and in the here and now.”

☛ Truth: First, this is hogwash, because you don’t need to meditate in order to “stay present” in your life. Want to learn how to “stay present?” Here’s but one tip: enjoy each moment by taking time to practice thankfulness, a concept that is spoken of throughout the Bible. And the extra bonus? You don’t need to open yourself up to demons to do so.

Second, this is a bunch of doublespeak, because this practice is actually teaching you to dissociate, which is the desired effect and the intention of meditation, period. As you practice this more, you are more likely to become less “present in the here and now.” This article will explain how this happens.

The next quote from these meditation gurus describes this dissociation, but they don’t use the term “dissociation.”

They say: “Mindfulness is non-conceptual awareness…. It is not thinking. It does not get involved with thought or concepts. It does not get hung up on ideas or opinions or memories. It just looks.”

☛ Truth: This “not thinking” and “not getting involved” is describing a separation of yourself from emotion and thought. Fundamentally, this is dissociation, and once you practice this enough, the dissociation will become chronic.

This is one of the dangers I will discuss momentarily, but I’d like to suggest that this is increasingly becoming a large part of society’s problem today: so many people, including those who are going through what is supposed to be an “enlightening  and healing process of meditation,” have become so detached from thought, emotion, other people … life itself … that they have metamorphosed into a bunch of selfish, cold, uncaring, narcissistically-inclined individuals who are strutting about like the naked Emperor, puffed up in their pride because of how lovely they think they are. And when someone points out to them how unlovely they actually are, they refuse to accept it, and foolishly carry on.

I’m not asserting that everyone who is narcissistic practices meditation; neither am I suggesting that meditation is the only problem that is contributing to this societal problem. But I’m simply positing that the practices of meditation are one of likely many factors that are inducing within people a character change of chronic detachment, and that this has a tendency to exhibit itself negatively in their relationships.

The Bible gets to the root of the problem in this way: “Because of the multiplication of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold.” (Matthew 24:12, BSB)

Basically speaking, “mindfulness meditation” is a cyclic exercise whereby you focus on your breathing, and when your thoughts begin to wander, you “accept any thoughts that come up,” including “thoughts about the past or thoughts on the future.” Then after a time, you bring your thoughts back to breathing.

☛ Truth: Experientially speaking, this cycle is training yourself to allow your subconscious/unconscious mind to take control over your conscious mind, tapping into the “power” of the subconscious or unconscious. As a result, you learn to easily dissociate from your own thoughts and emotions. This is the goal behind meditation that we’ve already touched on: to “unlock the power” of the subconscious, or, as some say, the unconscious, whereby spiritual experiences can be had, in order to supposedly “contact, get closer to, or become god,” by whatever name this false god is being called, whether it’s a “god” from a theistic point of view or a pantheistic point of view, or to simply have a so-called “deeper understanding” of one’s own self.

This “unlocking” is achieved through meditation as a person dissociates and disconnects from themselves, but the only thing they are unlocking are spiritual gateways that are being flung wide open for the demonic to enter.

What’s more, many people believe that these incoming messages that they receive are better than their own thoughts and their own conscious mind, and even that they are messages from “God,” full of higher wisdom. But what they are actually receiving are messages from the demonic.

☛ A Side Note: If you have read our book, this occult concept of “allowing the subconscious/unconscious mind to have power over the conscious” may sound familiar to you, as it is same idea behind the so-called “spirit man theology.”

Additionally, the word of God tells us to not accept every thought that comes into our mind, but to take every thought captive and bring it under submission to Jesus Christ! See 2 Corinthians 10:5. It is dangerous to simply “accept any thoughts” that come into one’s own mind. Not only is this “mindfulness meditation” training people to adopt an “anything is acceptable” attitude, (e.g., “there are no absolutes and there are no wrongs or rights, but everything is a matter of opinion… unless you disagree with this philosophy, and then you are wrong”), but this is ultimately opening people up to being influenced by the demonic as they whisper things to them.

Think demons can’t influence you in this way, especially if you call yourself a Christian? Wrong! Think again. They can and they do, especially when you open yourself up to their influence by participating in occult activities such as meditation.

They say the ultimate goal of all this is to “overcome your sufferings and understand natural wisdom.” This is all part of a Buddhist belief system of using meditation as part of their path towards “Enlightenment and nirvana.” “Zen” is another word used to describe this spiritual state.

☛ Truth: Meditation doesn’t give you an understanding of wisdom nor of suffering, and neither does it help you overcome suffering. But if you study the Word of God you will understand how to gain wisdom from the Spirit of Wisdom (the Holy Spirit of God). You will also learn about suffering and come to understand how it is related to daily taking up your cross and following the example of Jesus Christ by surrendering to the will of the Heavenly Father and walking in obedience to His Word.

Neither is meditation the way to “get to God” or to experience “God.” The only way to God is through Jesus Christ! If you, as a self-proclaimed Christian, don’t believe this statement to be true, then you owe it to yourself to simply be honest about who you are and what you believe, and stop calling yourself a Christian.

Some mental health professionals who work with survivors of trauma recommend this type of mindfulness meditation for their clients (or variations of it, including MBSR), including those who have dissociative disorders.

☛ Truth: There are safe ways to ground yourself and process memories without being overwhelmed by emotions from the memories, and you don’t have to yoke yourself to demons to do so! Please seek after safe paths to healing, and do not seek after occult ways. I do not say this as mental health professional (please refer to our disclaimer), but I share from what is written in the Word of God, as well as from my own experiences in attempting to find peace and healing through meditative practices. In our book, Carolyn and I give some suggestions on how to safely and Biblically process and work through memories, but there are many more safe ideas you can research out for yourself, both from professionals as well as from other survivors. I’ve already given the links where you can read our suggestions, but here they are again:

 Thoughts on Healing:
https://askcarolynandloren.com/book/section-four-important-helps/viii-other-helps-regarding-dissociative-disorders/#thoughts-on-healing

● Finding Freedom:
https://askcarolynandloren.com/book/section-four-important-helps/ii-finding-freedom/

⇒ Meditation Within “Christian” Groups

What is horribly tragic is that an increasing number of self-proclaimed Christians are practicing this unscriptural meditation: some are purposefully practicing meditation and others are ignorantly practicing. But whether or not their actions are purposeful or ignorant, many experience a ton of backlash and negative side-effects — also known as subtractions and transferences — however, they don’t always see these results as actually being negative (more on this phenomenon later). If they do have serious negative consequences that are not easily denied or brushed aside, they don’t always understand where the negative is coming from. Sometimes this is because they don’t see their actions as actually being meditation, as I have already stated.

Some Christians believe that through a “meditation” they are speaking to “God,” so then they justify their actions of meditation. They believe that since they are Christian, or since they believe that they aren’t meditating the way non-Christian people do, then their occult activity is not occult.

But they are mistaken.

They are, in fact, practicing meditation exactly the way occultists practice, and calling themselves a “Christian” does not make their occult practices to not be occult.

“Christian” Meditation: It’s Often Hidden in the Language

While many Christians practice occult meditation and yoga with no attempt to hide their activity, with others, they participate in different kinds of meditative practices that are not always recognizable as being meditative. With some of these activities, the similarities to occult meditation is easier to recognize than with others, but even though they will not usually call it “meditation,” some within particular “Christian” groups are practicing what is fundamentally occult meditation, including transcendental meditation.

There are many different phrases used by occult infiltrators in Christian churches and groups to describe this type of meditation. Some of the more commons ones include:

1. prayer closet
2. engaging in the spirit
3. getting in the spirit
4. moving in the spirit
5. seeing in the spirit
6. searching out the deeper things of God
7. operating in the supernatural
8. engaging the supernatural
9. having a spiritual encounter in the supernatural, or with supernatural beings
10. cultivating, developing, engaging in, growing in, learning to move or walk in, operating out of, and stretching gifts and abilities (all of these words are actually describing a process of visualization and meditation, as they learn to build their occult abilities and operate out of their occult gifts)

☛ Important to Note: For a more detailed list of “code words” used by occult infiltrators, see: https://askcarolynandloren.com/book/section-five/iii-glossary/.

Not everyone who uses these phrases are “christian” occultists; however, occult infiltrators will use these terms because they are terms that most Christians are familiar with.

Naturally, some will come right out and say that what they are participating in is essentially meditation, but they will often say it’s the “Christian way” to do it. The lie usually goes something like this: “We can participate in these activities because we are Christian, we have the ‘holy spirit’ protecting us, and we aren’t doing it the same way non-christians are doing it.”

If others raise objections, the phrase they sometimes use as a rebuttal is, “Don’t put God in a box,” or a similar thought. Translated, this essentially means: “I have no scriptural foundation for what I am doing, saying, or believing, but if you don’t believe what I am saying, doing or believe is true or real, then you don’t believe that God can perform miracles and do powerful things.”

There is not a single Scripture that backs up this arrogant philosophy, of course, and calling yourself a “Christian” or giving “Christian” names to occult activities does not protect you from the consequences of participating in such activities.

And as I’ve pointed out, others blatantly practice occult meditation with no attempt to hide their actions, including meditation within yoga, as well as transcendental meditation. It is generally easy for them to justify their actions since, as has been mentioned, much of Christianity has accepted many of the lies about meditation and other practices such as yoga.

But with other groups, they will use Christian language to hide the truth of what they are doing. However, the techniques are similar (and sometime identical) as those used in “normal” meditation and in TM. Furthermore, the results of their meditation are exactly the same, and the side-effects are exactly the same.

It must be pointed out, too, that there are people involved in occult activities such as meditation who don’t even realize that what they are involved in is occult. Inducing meditative trances through certain “Christian” activities is very common-place now, and many have grown up in this environment and are not aware that what they are involved in is fundamentally against Scripture.

I pray that this article will help open up the eyes of those individuals.

Examples of Meditation within “Christian” Groups

There are different manifestations of meditation within “Christian” groups, and I offer some examples of activities that incorporate meditation, as well as some examples on what this meditation can look like within Christian circles.

1. Occult Practices Disguised as Christian Practices

Throughout our book, Carolyn and I described how an increasing number of Christians are getting caught up in certain aspects of meditation through occult doctrines and practices, and this is most obvious in the spirit man theology, and in the seat of dominion and gateways exercises. Carolyn and I go into considerable detail in our book, so I won’t rewrite the entire book in this article, but I will remind you that these activities are teaching people, through a variety of exercises, to enter into an altered state of consciousness, giving their unconscious/subconscious mind control over their conscious mind.

This is a process that is facilitated by an occult meditation.

Sometimes they will use the phrase “give the ‘human spirit’ control over the soul,” but it all involves the same meditative process.

These so-called “christian” practices are extremely dangerous, and are taking the individual through a series of steps of visualization and meditation, ultimately leading some into opening what occultists would immediately recognize as their “third eye” as well as their “head center.” This can result in something identical to what is often called a “kundalini awakening,” something that even occultists who practice meditation acknowledge as being very dangerous to work through without “trained professionals.” Of course, the entire process is dangerous, regardless of whether or not you have a so-called “professional” to help you, as I will detail in a moment.

☛ A Side Note: Visualization and meditation go hand-in-hand. To see an example of a so-called “christian” occultist implementing visualization in her practices with a client, and to read about some of the dangers of this, see:

https://askcarolynandloren.com/2017/12/22/a-current-example-of-occult-infiltrators-infecting-mainstream-christianity/

These activities are also leading unsuspecting people (such as those who are in a “deliverance counseling” situation to get help) and the very foolish (such as those who are chasing after the supernatural) into spiritual experiences that are occult, including astral travel, contacting and communing with the supposed dead, having encounters with demons and fallen angels who have disguised themselves as angels of God, or with interacting with and being led by an antichrist(a demonic being that has disguised itself as “Jesus” or “Yeshua,” or another translation of the name).

This is something that occultists would see as perfectly normal, since visualization and meditation are easy ways through which these things can be experienced. Like the Christian who is practicing the occult, they also sometimes call these demonic entities “angels,” but they also use other names, such as “Ascended Masters, Galactic Masters, spirit beings, light beings,” or other such foolish names. But no matter what name is being used, the spiritual beings are demonic.

In fact, it’s no secret that astral travel is taught using the principles of visualization and meditation, and it works, because as you are opening your mind to the experience, you are giving permission to the demonic. They then enter into your spiritual space and take you to different places in or through the astral realms, and sometimes through the physical realms. Sometimes this “travel” is with the mind (commonly referred to as “remote viewing”), sometimes it is with part of the person’s spirit or soul that leaves the physical body, and sometimes the person’s physical body is taken.

The “spirit man theology,” as well as the “seat of dominion” and “gateway” exercises, and other occult teachings that are similar, are training people how to do these things through an occult visualization and meditation that they try to pass off as being “christian.”

2. Meditation Disguised as Prayer

Sometimes the individual will get caught up in trances as they “pray” by themselves. Of course, this is not prayer that is Biblically based, but is identical to an occult meditation, putting them into an altered state of consciousness. This can start off simply by the person closing their eyes and focusing their thoughts and emotions upon whatever it is that they wish. Such as: who they believe to be “God, Jesus, or angels,” a so-called heavenly place, or even a Scripture or a repetitive thought. This is called visualization, and as the individual opens their mind to these mental images, they immerse themselves inside these images, entering into a meditative, trance-like state. The demonic then enter, providing a variety of spiritual experiences, thoughts, and emotions.

☛ Important to Note: As stated above in example one, some people are using so-called “christian” exercises, such as the ideas behind “spirit man theology” or “gateways,” to enter into this meditative state. And as will be discussed below, in example three, some people know how to get into this hypnotic state because they have been taught through unruly and unbiblical church services or meetings, whether they realize it or not.

As with any other type of occult meditation, entering into this altered state of consciousness can be aided by music, musical tones, by the verbal repetition of Scripture, or by the chanting of particular prayers, but it isn’t always necessary, particularly for those who are adept at entering into an altered state of consciousness.

The individual can be lying down, sitting down, kneeling, standing, or in various other poses that are intended to make the individual feel comfortable enough so they can focus their mind and emotions.

As a result of their meditation, they can then have different types of “spiritual experiences.” Whether these events are real or imagined is up for debate. But while it’s true that some people are likely experiencing delusion born from their imagination and a deep-rooted, frenzied desire for spiritual experiences, many of the experiences are real and are being provided by the demonic. But even for those who are delusional, as they continue to seek after these spiritual experiences, the demonic will provide those things for them.

This entire process is identical to what the process behind an occult meditation can look like, and the results are exactly the same, which shouldn’t be surprising because this is an occult practice.

3. Church Services or Meetings

The most common form of entering into a meditative trance, however, begins in many “church” environments, particularly within a charismatic setting. It could easily be argued, too, that such charismatic atmospheres are teaching the fundamentals of entering into a meditative state, and when the individuals is alone at home, or within smaller group settings, the techniques that have been learned within a church setting are helping them to enter into a meditative state outside of church services or meetings.

This is a concept that we touched on in our book, particularly in the “spirit travel” section, as well as at the end of the “shining ones” section, but in an attempt to clearly “connect the dots” for you, so to speak, allow me to remind you of what we wrote in our book:

Without going into a lot of unnecessary detail, it’s important to note that basic occult rituals will create a spiritual atmosphere for any desired manifestation by tapping into the power of the demonic (they will often call this by different names, but fundamentally, it is demonic power). This is where the power is found that they are trying to tap into and use to work spell-casting.

There are different ways of describing these methods, but simply put, they include the following elements: visualization (this occurs within the mind); emotion (this emotion comes from the heart and is expressed through movement); and sound (often music or musical intonations, or through chanting “power words,” also known as charming).

The average, disorderly charismatic service or meeting uses every one of these elements, bringing a whole different level of understanding as to why Scripture admonishes us to have orderly services or meetings. (pp 65-66)


Link: https://askcarolynandloren.com/book/section-two-common-motivators/iv-spiritual-manifestations-signs-and-wonders/#demonic-anointing

And in his book, “Between Christ and Satan,” Kurt Koch describes the necessary elements for spell-casting: 8

1. invoking (calling on a spirit)
2. charming (chanting particular words or sounds);
3. symbolic action;
4. and using a fetish, or, objects

With these things in mind, consider the surrounding elements of the average charismatic-type of church service, taking notice of how they correspond to what I have expressed above:

● Hypnotic music that is purposefully chosen to be appealing to the emotion is played and sung, whether it is upbeat and frantic, or slow and moving. It is also important to note that often the songs are carefully and specifically chosen to prepare the individual to be open to the particular message that is being given that day. It’s part of setting the mood, or the atmosphere.

● This emotion is displayed in a physical way, through movement of the body, including raising and moving hands, jumping, dancing, swaying, and other types of movement. This movement can also be precipitated by the music leader (or other group leader) who guides the congregation into using particular movements as a group, such as jumping in sync, clapping on cue, raising their hands together, or swaying together.

● As this hypnotic music is playing, the leader then gives commands, such as “let the spirit in,” or “open up,” or “surrender.” They also use repetitive words or phrases, such as “yes, yes, yes,” or “holy, holy, holy.” Additionally, they lead the congregation into repeating these same “mantras” or “power words.” Often these commands or suggestions are in the lyrics of the song and are sung, not necessarily spoken. But it’s not uncommon for both to occur.

● The congregation is led through visualization: often through the lyrics of the music, but also usually augmented by spoken commands from the leader, the group will be given mental images that they will begin to visualize in their head, such as a “heavenly place,” an “attribute of God” to focus on, angels, or other such things. These visualizations can sometimes be aided by literal visuals, such as: videos, pictures, ribbons, banners, and teams of dancers.

● People will then begin having spiritual experiences to one degree or another. For many, it is merely strong emotion. For others, they will see visions, either with their physical eyes or with their spiritual eyes. Sometimes they will experience a part of them being transported to a heavenly place in the astral realms, and this can be related to having a vision with their “spiritual eyes.” Some will also get what they often consider to be “revelation,” as they receive spiritual messages. These are just some examples; the experiences vary widely.

Although these meditative, trance-like experiences being had through these charismatic services often “feel good,” they are not of God, and are experiences that are being provided by the demonic and by human infiltrators in the astral realm. We talked about this in our book.

I’ll remind you of these details a bit further down in this article, but what is actually happening in the spirit realms is that the demons are connecting the individual to a “spiritual drug,” and hooking them up to the spirit of the antichrist. And then the demonic are invading their spiritual space, influencing and controlling them to one extent or another. This is also something that we detailed in our book.

When the individual is hooked up to the spiritual drug, there are often immediate manifestations that occur, including:

● Widespread and unruly tongues.

Although this is likely a topic for a completely different article, it is sufficient to say at this time that these are not biblical tongues mainly because they are manifesting in an ungodly environment. In some cases the “tongues” may be babbling nonsense, but in other cases they are demonic curses being uttered in a language other than what the individual themselves know and speak. Not only is this is a phenomenon that I have seen and experienced for myself, but it has also been researched and written about by other people, such as the late Kurt Koch.

 What is commonly referred to as “falling out in the spirit.” Sometime this “falling out” is faked or even forced by an overly-zealous and controlling preacher. But sometimes it is real, and what is essentially happening in this case is that the individual is being knocked down by the demonic spirits and sometimes by human infiltrators working in the astral, hooked up to the spiritual drug, and connected to the spirit of the antichrist. More on this in a moment.

● Shaking, rolling, gyrating, convulsing, falling down, and other spastic movements.

When these manifestations occur, sometimes the individual is more-or-less in control of their physical body; however, since they are not in control of their own mind and emotions, they are unable to prevent themselves from acting inappropriately within the setting of what is supposed to be an orderly service, according to what the Word of God describes. On the other hand, many times the individuals have no control of what their physical body is doing.

● “Drunken” behavior, such as being unable to stand, stumbling and swaying when walking, slurring of speech, incoherent speech, outbursts of laughter.

● Screaming, maniacal laughter, hysterical crying, or making animal noises, such as grunts, howls, hisses, mews, and barks.

Not all will show the more extreme manifestations. Many people simply just “feel good,” or get a “spiritual high” feeling without any ostentatious display. However, it is not at all uncommon to see and hear such crazy demonic demonstrations. And in case there’s any doubt in your mind: these things are not of God. In fact, as will be shown in a moment, these manifestations are simply negative side-effects that can occur from meditation. But since Christians don’t understand that through their ungodly activities they are entering into an occult meditation, then they don’t understand that the manifestations they experience are actually negative side-effects of that meditation.

Please don’t misunderstand. I am not saying that playing music in a church meeting or in a home bible study group is evil. I am not saying that clapping your hands or raising your hands is bad. I am not saying that having an emotional response in these circumstances is occult. Neither am I saying that singing or reciting Scripture is unbiblical.

I am saying, however, that the unbiblical way that people are “praying,” and the unruly way many church meetings are being conducted, centering around appealing to emotionalism and to spiritual experiences, is not of God and is leading into things that are absolutely not sanctioned by Scripture. They are, in fact, mirroring the side-effects of meditation, but more importantly, it is deliberately creating an atmosphere for the demonic to enter and hook people up to a spiritual drug, aligning them with the spirit of the antichrist.

 Warnings about Meditation

What follows are a series of links to other materials across the internet, and I pull some quotes from some of these sources. If you choose to follow the links and read the complete articles for yourself, as always, I urge you to read all content with a critical eye, carefully and properly lining everything up with the Word of God.

☛ An Important Note: there are different types of meditation, and some of the following resources are speaking of what would be called “normal” meditation, and others are speaking of transcendental meditation (TM), a particular type of “in-depth” meditation. However, regardless of whether or not someone is practicing TM or “normal” meditation, there are dangers.

Dr. Itai Ivtzan, an advocate of meditation, writes about some of the dangers of meditation in this article, including this little tidbit: 9

“Practising a wrong meditation technique could be a harmful experience for you.”

It must be pointed out here that practicing what is found in the Word of God does not lead to a “harmful experience.” There is no list of potential negative side-effects in being obedient to the Father and in submitting to His will. There are no negative side-effects from being filled with the Spirit of God.

Dr. Ivtzan continues:

“Meditation could trigger waves of anger, fear or jealousy, which had been sitting deep within you, and that would make you feel uncomfortable.”

He refers to this emotional process as “facing buried emotion,” and then goes on to encourage people to continue in meditation practice, saying that the anger, fear, and jealousy “is a natural and healthy dimension of meditation practice, and these emotions will gradually subside.”

I 100% disagree!

First, as I will show in a moment, there is evidence that these emotions will not subside, but will be an ongoing problem. This is not surprising, since these emotions that are brought up through meditation are not overcome by more meditation, but by submission to the Father and by allowing His Spirit to lead and guide you. To say that such upheaval is “natural and healthy” and will “gradually subside” with even more meditation is like saying that while eating rancid, poisoned food can harm you, the solution to the problem is to eat more of the rancid, poisoned food. This doesn’t make sense, either in a physical sense, or in a spiritual sense.

Second, in what universe is it “normal” to be sitting, standing, or lying down, trying to relax and focus on your breathing, and out of the blue, for no discernible reason, you start to feel anger well up inside of you, or fear, or jealousy? This is not indicative of anything that is “healthy,” but is actually evidence that the demonic have entered into you at that very moment. This is “rotten fruit” of unholy spirits that comes from participating in an unholy activity, and if the fruit is rotten, why partake of it?

And although the author of this article is also pro-meditation, she admits the following: 10

“Not all TM effects are positive. A meta study reported in the International Journal of Psychotherapy notes several possible negative side effects of TM. Some practitioners reported not relaxation but stress, anxiety and panic. Others reported feelings of disconnection with reality both during and after meditation. Some had increased depression. Others reported less motivation in life. Meditators reporting difficulty were not just beginners but also experienced meditators; some said the effects lasted as long as 105 months.”

105 months?! That’s nearly 9 years of “negative side-effects” that hardly anyone speaks of!

All most of us hear, even from doctors of medicine and psychiatry, as well as many practitioners of alternative medicine, is encouragement to participate in this mediation that they laud. At the least, you’d think they’d be honest about the side-effects that you are likely to experience…. But then again, this isn’t what the demonic want you to know, so not many people talk about this aspect of what is supposed to be a “healthy, risk-free” activity. And, as you will find if you do the research, not many people talk about their negative experiences with meditation. Which leads to the next natural question: if so few people talk about or report the negative side-effects, then how much more common are those negative effects of meditation than even current research shows?

And by the way, when the above author speaks about “disconnection with reality,” she is speaking to dissociation through meditation. This purposeful opening oneself up to dissociating from the physical world is not something that is healthy, nor is it a desired state-of-being. I speak about this from personal experience, and this is something that I have warned about several times in the book I wrote with Carolyn.

Of course, this side-effect of dissociation in meditation is usually downplayed to a certain extent, but it is a common problem. This shouldn’t be surprising, since the very intent of meditation is to dissociate in varying degrees. Of course, the truth is hidden behind words such as “disconnection,” so not everyone understands that this is dissociation. But not many people will tell you that this dissociation can become chronic, developing into a type of dissociative disorder brought about through unhealthy spiritual practices that is opening the person up to demonic possession and influence.

Other people give warnings about meditation, as well, and this article (11) and this article (12) show another side to meditation that many don’t ever know about until it is too late for them and the damage has already been done. Reading these articles should give any sane person serious pause, even if they ultimately decide to minimize or completely dismiss the information that is presented. At the least, however, you should be well-informed of what you are getting yourself into, regardless of whether you are a Christian or a non-Christian, or regardless of whether or not you ultimately decide to practice meditation.

In the second article I linked to directly above (here’s the link again)12, Dr. Miguel Farias writes:

“In 1992, David Shapiro, a professor at UCLA Irvine, published an article about the effects of meditation retreats. After examining 27 people with different levels of meditation experience, he found 63 per cent of them had suffered at least one negative effect and seven per cent profoundly adverse effects.”

“The negative effects included anxiety, panic, depression, pain, confusion and disorientation. But perhaps only the least experienced felt them – and might several days of meditation not overwhelm those who were relatively new to the practice? The answer was no. When Shapiro divided the larger group into those with lesser and greater experience, there were no differences: all had an equal number of adverse experiences. And an earlier study had arrived at a similar, but even more surprising conclusion: those with more experience also had considerably more adverse effects than the beginners.”

Further down, he adds:

“Other unpleasant things can happen, too, as Britton discovered through interviews with numerous individuals: arms flap, people twitch and have convulsions; others go through euphoria or depression, or report not feeling anything at all as their physical senses go numb. Still, unpleasant though they are, if these symptoms were confined to a retreat, there wouldn’t be much to worry about – but they’re not. Sometimes they linger, affecting work, child care and relationships. They can become a clinical health problem, which, on average, lasts for more than three years. What’s more, meditation teachers know about it – Britton says – but researchers are usually sceptical; they ask about the psychiatric history of meditators who develop mental illness, as if meditation itself had little or nothing to do with it.”

In spite of the evidence, Dr. Farias is still, according to his article, an advocate of meditation.

His attitude reminds me of some advocates of “deliverance counseling” I have had experience with, who use and advocate the use of ungodly practices in such “counseling,” continuing to lead people through exercises that are similar to or identical to meditation, bringing those people great emotional, mental, spiritual, and even physical harm. In spite of the dangers that those “deliverance ministers” know about and have been warned about, not only do they continue to bring people through these harmful exercises, but they also protect other “deliverance ministers” who are doing the same. The capacity of some people — so-called “christians” — to simply not care about anyone other than themselves will never cease to amaze and bewilder me. But it should not be very surprising, since this type of behavior is evidence of the fruit of the unholy spirits in their lives.

This (13website is also a good place to get honest, experienced warnings from a man who no longer practices transcendental meditation. I do not give a blanket endorsement of everything on his website (I make it a general rule to not give blanket endorsements for anyone), partly because he points people to a so-called “less harmful” form of meditation called “Relaxation Response.” In fact, in reading through his material, his main grievance with TM seems to be that the fact is not made clear upfront that TM teachings is a cult and a religion, and that there are dangers to practicing TM that are not disclosed upfront. He doesn’t necessarily have an issue with TM being a cult and a religion, but he has issue with the fact that they aren’t upfront about it. And according to what he shares on his website, he believes the negative effects of meditation are because TM is a cult, and not because of the practice of mediation itself.

Nevertheless, for the purposes of general education, I find his website to be a place where there is some very helpful information about the inherent dangers of meditation, particularly TM. As you read through his information, however, don’t forget to line up everything you read with Scripture, as with all things. 🙂

But in this (14article, he reports on some of the negative side-effects of transcendental meditation, including:

1. Chronic dissociation
2. Increased anxiety
3. Headaches during meditation
4. “Unpleasant physical sensations”
5. Involuntary twitching of large muscle groups

And these are just the “normal” negative side-effects! He also documents the following from those who have shared their personal experiences:

1. Extreme lack of mental clarity and focus
2. Screaming, shaking, and convulsing
3. Hallucinations
4. Depression and manic behavior
5. Nervous breakdowns
6. Severe psychological disturbances
7. Involuntary commitment to mental institutions
8. Suicides, attempted suicides, and suicidal ideation
9. Murder or murderous ideation

And this (15website gives more details about the negative side-effects of meditation:

1. Becoming unemployable due to the inability to control their mental state
2. Depression
3. Agitation
4. Psychosis
5. Complex partial epilepsy (what they describe as “visual abnormalities, hearing voices, feeling vibrations, or experiencing automatic behaviors”)
6. Emotional difficulties
7. Blackouts
8. Amnesia
9. Losing track of time

Will you experience all of these negative side-effect if you practice meditation? Will it be as bad for you as it has been for other people? Who knows? But taking a chance is exactly like playing Russian roulette with your life, only the weapon is not a gun but meditation.

Those who still advocate this practice in spite of knowing the inherent dangers sometimes point to the fact that “life is a risk,” and give examples of risky behavior that people engage in, in spite of the risks. Such as bungee jumping. Or parachuting.

So, okay. Let’s take these two examples, but give a more accurate analogy than what they have offered:

Would you go bungee jumping with a cord that has been 50% severed somewhere in the middle? What about 10%? Would you take that chance if you had a 90% chance of living, but only a 10% chance of plunging to your death? Would the 10% be worth taking a chance?

Would you go skydiving if you knew that of the stock of parachutes available to both you and your instructor, only half were in good working condition? What if 75% of them were in working order, and the other 25% were bad, incapable of opening? Would you still take a chance?

Some might still take the chance, as unbelievable as that thought is to me. But my point remains: at the least, you should be aware of the odds that are stacked against you. Then, if you decide to take the risk anyway, the resulting consequences are on you.

 Subtractions, Transferences, and Other Consequences of Occult Activity

As with other types of occult practices, sometimes the side-effects of practicing meditation show up in other ways, such as in subtractions or transferences.

In our book, “Doctrines of Demons: Exposing Christian Witchcraft,” Carolyn and I wrote about some of the effects of practicing witchcraft, and the same holds true for practicing an occult meditation, including meditation within yoga:

Subtractions and transferences will always take place when one practices witchcraft, but they can be easy to pass off as a naturally-occurring events.

Subtractions are things that are taken away from the individual as a result of practicing witchcraft and can include things such as:

1. Constant money troubles, in spite of hard work and wise investment.
2. Possessions constantly breaking down, being stolen, or lost, in spite of care.
3. Constant physical illness, in spite of taking care of self.
4. Constant accidents, bringing injury to self or destruction of property.
5. Constant strife within the home, tearing apart relationships.

Transferences occur in two different ways:

1. When the individual gets what they desire, yet tragedy personally strikes them elsewhere. For example:

a. The individual may receive a demonic healing, but they unexpectedly lose a lot of money.
b. The individual may receive a promotion at work or what seems to be a better job, but their physical or mental health begins to rapidly decline.
c. The individual may receive a windfall of money, but their marriage deteriorates.

2. Or, when there are no seemingly bad effects to the individual, but their family members are beset by tragedy or misfortune. For example:

a. The individual feels fine, but family members or loved ones begin suffering physical illness, in spite of taking care of self.
b. The individual is seemingly doing well, but family members begin to be injured in bizarre accidents.

In and of themselves, these things are not necessarily indicative of someone practicing witchcraft. There are many examples of Godly men and women suffering Satanic and human persecution, in spite of doing the right thing. Likewise, there are many instances where people suffer the consequences of their own human mistakes or bad judgement, or the mistakes and bad judgement of others around them. There are also accidents that happen or tragedy that strikes, because life is full of strife. However, the charismatic witch will suffer these things as a result of practicing witchcraft, and it’s often a relentless suffering, with one negative thing after another happening to them or their family members. (pp 32-33)


Link: https://askcarolynandloren.com/book/section-one/chapter-six-you-will-know-them-by-their-fruit/#subtractions-and-transferences

In his book, “Occult ABC: Exposing Occult Practices and Ideologies,” Kurt Koch goes into detail about some of the results of engaging in occult activities. This includes meditation.

While I will not go into detail here, he lists the following:16

 1. Mediumistic affinities, having its roots in any of the following: heredity, transference, and magical experimentation
2. Resistance to the things of God
3. Distortion of character
4. Emotional disorders
5. A breeding ground for mental illness
6. Oppression of descendants
7. Frequent suicides
8. Ghosts and poltergeists resulting from sins of sorcery
9. Frequent diseases

(pp 263-280)

The truth is, all of the side-effects I have already talked about are just symptoms of what the real problem isdemonic possession and control. This certainly is a spiritual problem at its very root.

Many of those whom I have cited in this article would likely disagree with my conclusion, as well as would most modern psychologists and other mental health experts, and that’s fine. Contrary to what some may believe, it’s not my job to try to “convince” anyone of the truth, but to merely share it when I am given opportunity to do so. In fact, the author of one of the websites (14that I have quoted above suggests that belief in demons are a result of “induced psychosis,” and on a certain level, I understand where he is coming from in his conclusion. I’ve seen the same (17with some individuals who participate in these types of ungodly activity: they fall into what Carolyn and I described in our book as a type of delusion whereby they believe certain spiritual things are happening to them, when in fact, it is not. It is in their imagination, an imagination that, sadly, grows increasingly delusional as time goes on.

And please don’t get me wrong: I’m not saying that certifiable mental illnesses or disorders don’t exist, nor that “induced psychoses” do not occur. Neither am I denying that this “meditation” can sometimes make these pre-existing illness, disorders, or psychoses worse. I know that occult practices, including meditation, have a tendency to make these illnesses and disorders worse in one way or another. In fact, Carolyn and I already shared in our book that those who are already dissociative are actually more susceptible to grave issues arising out of certain occult meditative techniques, such as “Seat of Dominion.”

However, whether the experiences are delusions of the imagination or whether they are actually real, and no matter the previous mental and emotional state of the individual, these experiences are being induced by and through the demonic.

And so I stand by my statement: the true root cause of the side-effects behind meditation and any other type of occult activity is demonic possession and control.

Even the seemingly “positive” effects are as a result of the demonic, as I will discuss next.

 A Spiritual Drug and a Spiritual High

☛ Question: But what about the “feel-good feelings” that keep people going back to meditation? In spite of some people who experience negative side-effects, aren’t these “feel good feelings” that are experienced by many proof that meditation works?

To answer this, let’s look at what is really happening to you spiritually when you participate in occult activities.

As I have shown, the intent of meditation is to cause people to go into a hypnotic, dissociative state, and the true effect of this is that they then become open to the suggestion and control of the demonic. And part of Satan’s end-time plan includes getting as many Christians as possible involved in this practice as well, so that the demonic can have even more control.

We wrote about these “feel-good feelings”  in our book in a couple of different place, and the same principles we wrote about are true no matter what occult activity you involve yourself in:

…Sometimes those practicing “Christian witchcraft” feel little to no negative side-effects while they are practicing. Why? Because Satan, his fallen angels, and the demons want to keep their human hosts happy. This ensures the human host will be in continued agreement with the demonic, allowing themselves to be used by his (Satan’s) members. So there are not always negative side-effects felt. At least not while they are being used by the demonic. As soon as the demonic are finished with the human host, however, the negative effects will come flooding in. However, during the process of being used, it’s not unusual for positive feelings to be more prevalent.

The process by which Satan and his members control their human hosts is detailed as follows:

1. The demonic entities using the human (also known as a vehicle) have a spiritual cord attached to the human, giving them access to the whole person, spiritual and physical, including the ability to manipulate the nervous system and the endocrine system.

2. Through that cord they transfer a type of spiritual energy that affects the human’s neurotransmitters, impacting them in the same way it would if they were to take a physical drug that altered their brain chemistry.

3. Satan’s members then have the ability to artificially boost a person’s mental and emotional state, causing the brain to release a type of opiate that makes them feel positive and good. People can mistake these positive emotions as something spiritual, and be encouraged to continue down the path that the influencing entities are leading them down.

4. The entities using that human can also use the brain connection to affect their human negatively when they are moving off course. The person will notice an undesirable difference in feeling, encouraging them to avoid the things which the influencing entities want them to avoid. This negative reinforcement works the same way the positive reinforcement does, and keeps them on the path the influencing entities desire them to go. (pp 31-32, 185)


Links:

“Common Effects (Fruit) of Practicing Witchcraft”
https://askcarolynandloren.com/book/section-one/chapter-six-you-will-know-them-by-their-fruit/#common-effects

“Seat of Dominion”
https://askcarolynandloren.com/book/section-three-some-teachings-and-practices/iii-other-christian-occult-teachings/#seat-of-dominion

But regardless of how it makes you feel at that moment, there is always bad fruit (results or effects) from practicing witchcraft, and the same is true for any occult activity, including meditation and meditation within yoga.

Here are some scriptures that speak to specific results (fruit) that come from the demonic:

● Loss, death, and destruction (steals, kills, and destroys). (John 10:10)
● Causes people to be in a worse condition than they were before. (Matthew 12:43-45)
● Self-destruction and insanity. (Mark 5:1-20)
● Causes people to turn against God. (example: Judas)
● Causes deception and denies Jesus Christ. (2 John 1:7)
● Illness. (Matthew 9:32; Matthew 12:22; Acts 8:7)
● Unholy gifts. (Acts 16:16-18)

Ultimately, however, the unholy fruit that comes about by living in and following after the flesh is spiritual and eternal death. (Romans 6:20-23; Romans 8:13) (p 30)


Link: https://askcarolynandloren.com/book/section-one/chapter-six-you-will-know-them-by-their-fruit/#fruit-of-the-unholy-spirits

And in this same chapter we wrote:

Sometimes the rotten or fake fruit of the Christian witch within the charismatic movement is obvious; many times it is not, at least not to those who are not within the “inner circles.” What is common, however, is that because this charismatic movement is egocentric (self-centered and not God-centered), a spirit of jealousy and competition runs through these Christian witchcraft groups. While often a Christian mask of humility is worn for public purposes, pride, ego, and a narcissistic controlling spirit are prevalent. As a result, people are often stepped on or stepped over, in an effort to reach the top. In public view, the people in these groups can (but not always) appear to be kind and loving to others within and outside their inner circle, but it’s not uncommon to privately share contempt and ridicule for those outside their inner circle, or for those who are in the group, but don’t fit in well.

Sexual deviancy of various types is usually widespread (such as lust, astral sex, extra-marital relationships, pornography, and the like), but often hidden and/or ignored. Violent displays of temper can also be common, but usually behind closed doors, where only family or close friends can see, and depression is a common problem for many. This depression can be masked behind greed (such as, greed for money, power, and influence), or in an indulgence of the sensual appetites, particularly food, drink, and sex (in the physical or in the astral). Gossiping, lying, and slander are also common problems. (p 30-31)

I already spoke about subtractions and transferences so I won’t go over it again, but to remind you: this is also something that will manifest in one way or another when people participate in occult activities, including meditation and yoga.

Such is the fruit of the unholy spirits: while there may be short-term “good feelings,” in the end there is destruction.

☛ Question: So are there always negative side effects of practicing meditation?

Yes, but not everyone recognizes the results as being negative.

Here’s what I mean.

When you engage in occult activity, many times you don’t feel any negative effects. Many times, there are only positive feelings. This is explained by the “spiritual drug” I just talked about. But any negative effects that are present are usually not recognized as being negative, or not seen as being connected to the actual activity itself, but are attributed to something else. This is especially true for those who are not knowledgeable as to what to look for as far as side-effects; for those who have fallen deeply into delusion and are simply blinded to the reality of what they have gotten themselves involved in; or for those who are so used to constant chaos and stress (such as some who are dissociative or who have other mental or emotional disorders), that feeling anything different other than stress and chaos seems abnormal.

For instance:

● Since headaches are common for a variety of reasons, headaches during or after a meditation session might be totally dismissed and not considered to be a negative side-effect. Although there may be other reasons for these headaches, this is also a common side-effect of dissociation, a state that meditation is inducing.

● A persistent state of dissociation is seen as “normal.” This can be especially true of those who already have dissociative disorders.

● Feelings of dissociation are viewed as “pleasant.”

This can be true because sometimes dissociation can feel like floating on a cloud, and the feeling is not always negative.

This is not always true, however! Dissociation can also feel like being mired down in a thick, toxic bog, unable to move; or like being lost in a cold, wet, dense fog, knowing you are just a single step away from an unseen cliff that will send you plummeting into a dark abyss. But at the risk of being triggering to some readers, sometimes dissociation can feel like a “butterfly” feeling — fluttery and floating — and it’s not necessarily unpleasant, at least initially. So if people practicing meditation are feeling the “floating, fluttery” feelings, and since these feelings aren’t necessarily unpleasant, they don’t consider the action or the result to be undesirable.

Coming from the experience of having lived with a dissociative disorder, however, what many people consider to be “good” dissociative sensations don’t feel so good, in my opinion. The “feel good feelings” of dissociation can closely resemble what a heavy stone of dread and anxiety feels like when it settles in the pit of your stomach and in the base of your spine. Which is probably one reason why meditation can lead to increased physical anxiety (aside from the spiritual aspect of being demonically possessed, that is): while the physical sensations of dissociation can initially be pleasant, it can just as quickly become an overwhelming sensation, turning into anxiety and fear.

● In spite of the negative side-effects, meditative practices are addictive, and can lead to a decrease in desire to experience “real life,” as well as a tendency to begin neglecting practical responsibilities, including familial and parental obligations and work responsibilities. But as with any addict, because of the “feel-good feelings” that they have when engaging in such occult practices, they don’t see this addiction as being a negative.

● One negative side-effect that Christians may not even realize is manifesting when they involve themselves in meditation is that there is a decreased desire to pray and read the Bible. This can be exhibited in different ways. For instance:

1. Meditation is not the same thing as praying according to Scripture, but often, meditation begins to take the place of prayer. (To read a short Bible study on what prayer is: https://askcarolynandloren.com/2017/12/04/bible-study-prayer/)

2. Incoming spiritual messages that they are receiving through this meditation takes the place of reading and studying the Word of God.

3. If the person does any reading and studying of the Bible, it is in an occult fashion, whereby they take Scriptures completely out of context, twisting them to mean something that they do not mean. This type of so-called “bible study” will reinforce the doctrines of demons that they have fallen prey to, and it is just one reason why I tell people over and over again to “line everything up with with the Word of God that has been properly interpreted within context.” And I will continue to say this, no matter how many people get annoyed with me.

4. For many who are interacting with whom they consider to be “Jesus” (this is a demon in disguise), reading the Word of God is replaced by interacting with whom they mistakenly consider to be the “living word of God.”

5. In other cases, people are also interacting with whom they believe to be “angels” (or “spirit guides, ascended masters, et cetera”), who, as I have already stated, are simply demons in disguise. The messages they receive from these so called “angels” are taking precedence over the written Word of God.

● Within some “Christian” circles, screaming, shaking, falling down, and convulsing is seen as “getting in the spirit” and drunken-like behavior is seen as being “drunk or high on the spirit.” Therefore, these often involuntary and unruly negative side-effects are actually considered to be positive effects of being “drunk in the spirit.” Or of being “inebriated on the spirit.” Or of being “saturated in the glory cloud of the spirit.” Or whatever ridiculous terms and phrases they come up with.

● For the Christian who is practicing meditation, either purposefully and consciously or through having been deceived, having spiritual experiences through this meditation is seen as positive, such as interactions with angels, demons, or a “Jesus,” or having visions of or traveling to “heavenly places.” But it is absolutely not positive, since these “spiritual beings” and the “heavenly places” are, in fact, demonic, leading them into further deception and away from sound, Biblical teaching.

● For the Christian, extremely negative consequences that are impossible to pass off as “normal” or impossible to ignore (such as emotional instability, nervous breakdowns, depression, suicidal ideation, and the like, as well as an increase in demonic attack and manifestations) are often considered to simply be part of their “spiritual warfare.” This can be especially true of those who do not know they are participating in the occult, but have been deceived into believe themselves to be getting “closer to God” than the average Christian through their meditations. Or of those who are going through so-called “deliverance counseling.” Therefore, when the individual is experiencing subtraction or transferences (those pesky negative side-effects), they erroneously believe they are being attacked by the demonic because they are doing what is right and Satan is trying to discourage them or prevent them from “having a breakthrough.” Therefore, they will double-down on their efforts to engage in even more occult activity, with even more meditation (that is commonly disguised as “prayer”), and participating in even greater occult activities, such as the “courtrooms of heaven” activity and other ridiculous, supposed “spiritual warfare” activities.

● For those who are not Christians, the extremely negative consequences can be passed off as simply being an expected part of their spiritual journey: a so-called “dark side” that simply complements the supposed “light side.” Fundamentally, this is actually a Luciferian teaching.

● In other cases — such as with those who are unable to remain unperturbed and dissociated from the painful reality of the circumstances that they, by participating in meditation, have brought upon themselves — the negative results (such as depression, suicide attempts, or suicide ideation) are blamed on something that is wrong, or imagined to be wrong, psychologically speaking with the person themselves (e.g., a mental condition or an emotional disorder), and not something that is wrong with the actual occult practice. Therefore, they often won’t seek out the true solution to their problem, which is to turn to God, repent of their witchcraft, and walk in humble submission to His will and in obedience to His Word.

Sadly, this is even true for some so-called “christian” groups, such as in “deliverance counseling.” If the individual does not receive relief from these side-effects after going through all the crazy shenanigans of so-called “deliverance,” including all the guided meditation (disguised as “prayer”), the “courtrooms” exercises, the “spirit man” counseling, the “seat of dominion” exercises, all the so-called “spiritual warfare,” and other such activity, ad nauseum, they are either falsely declared to be “all healed up,” and tossed aside like so much unwanted garbage, or professed to be “too wounded to be healed,” and tossed aside like so much unwanted garbage. In some cases, the clients are even accused of being “uncooperative” through this chaotic, demonic process of “deliverance counseling,” and the client is blamed for “not wanting their healing.” All of these things, of course, are very traumatic for the individual, and recovering from this is a long and painful process.

So in spite of people not recognizing or excusing negative side-effects of practicing the occult (including meditation), they are very real and they are very dangerous.

But what does the Word of God say about the ultimate negative side-effect of practicing the occult?

Galatians 5:19-21 (KJV)

“Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Revelation 21:8 (BSB)

“But to the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and sexually immoral and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their place will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur. This is the second death.”

(emphasis added)

But there is hope! 🙂 If you have been participating in witchcraft, such as meditation or yoga, confess your sin to the Heavenly Father, repent (turn away), renounce your beliefs and practices, and begin to walk in obedience to the Word of God and in submission to the will of the Father.

 What the Word of God Says About Meditation

Most of modern society would have us believe that there is a “safe way” or a “non-religious way” to meditate according to human standards. And as the years pass, more and more Christians are falling for the lies and the deception, proving that occultists have certainly been very good at changing people’s perception about meditation.

So is there a “safe way” to practice meditation?

First, let’s consider this fact that has already been laid out: meditation is an esoteric teaching, meaning that there are levels of understanding and knowledge that you gain as you go higher up in meditation practices. So at what point do you stop yourself because you realize that you are about to enter into a “new level of understanding” that may be more dangerous? That’s impossible. By the time you realize you are entering a new level of understanding, you’ve already entered.

Second, whether or not you are on the lower levels of understanding or on the higher levels of understanding, you are opening yourself up to demonic possession and control. So how safe is that, really? The obvious answer is: it’s not safe at all!

The dark side is using the word “meditation” to peddle it’s wares. They say that the Bible teaches meditation, when in fact they are teaching something entirely different than what the Bible teaches. And even Christians have a wrong idea of what meditation is according to the Word of God.

But as Christians, our plumb line is the written Word of God, not modern-day society who’s values are subject to drastic change over time. So while there is no “safe way” to practice the occult, the only “safe way” to practice meditation is to meditate on the Word of God as is clearly and simply defined in Scripture.

So what does the Bible say about meditation?

The definitions of “meditation” or “meditate” as found in the Bible include the following:

1. musing
2. groaning
3. as a musical direction (this can be compared to modern musical direction that is noted on sheet music, such as “adagio” or “crescendo,” or “dolce.”)
4. complaint
5. to utter, speak, or talk of or about
6. growl (used poetically and in analogies)
7. consider
8. contemplate
9. sing
10. plan
11. practice
12. study
13. ponder
14. prepare
15. devise

But don’t take my word for it. Look for yourself. 🙂

In the Old Testament, the word “meditation” is used in five different ways (see: https://www.blueletterbible.org/search/search.cfm?Criteria=meditation&t=KJV#s=s_lexiconc), and can be studied with the Strong’s Concordance using the following keys:

1. H1900: http://biblehub.com/hebrew/1900.htm

● Used in one verse: Psalm 91:3.

2. H1901: http://biblehub.com/hebrew/1901.htm

● Used in two verses: Psalm 5:1 and Psalm 39:3.

3. H1902: http://biblehub.com/hebrew/1902.htm

● Used in four verses: Psalm 9:16, Psalm 19:14, Psalm 92:3, and Lamentations 3:62.

4. H7879: http://biblehub.com/str/hebrew/7879.htm

● Used in thirteen verses: 1 Samuel 1:16, 1 Kings 18:27, 2 Kings 9:11, Job 9:27, Job 10:1, Job 21:4, Job 23:2, Psalm 55:2, Psalm 64:1, Psalm 102:1, Psalm 104:34, Psalm 142:2, and Proverbs 23:29.

5. H7881: http://biblehub.com/str/hebrew/7881.htm

● Used in three verses: Job 15:4, Psalm 119:97, and Psalm 119:99.

In the New Testament, the word “meditation” is not used.

In the Old Testament, the word “meditate” is used in three different ways (see: https://www.blueletterbible.org/search/search.cfm?Criteria=meditate&t=KJV#s=s_lexiconc), and can be studied with the Strong’s Concordance using the following keys:

1. H1897: http://biblehub.com/str/hebrew/1897.htm

● Used in 24 verses: Joshua 1:8, Job 27:4, Psalm 1:2, Psalm 2:1, Psalm 35:28, Psalm 37:30, Psalm 38:12Psalm 63:6Psalm 71:24Psalm 77:12Psalm 115:7Psalm 143:5Proverbs 8:7Proverbs 15:28Proverbs 24:2, Isaiah 8:19Isaiah 16:7Isaiah 31:4Isaiah 33:18Isaiah 38:14Isaiah 59:3Isaiah 59:11Isaiah 59:13, and Jeremiah 48:31.

2. H7742: http://biblehub.com/str/hebrew/7742.htm

● Used in one verse: Genesis 24:63.

3. H7878: http://biblehub.com/str/hebrew/7878.htm

● Used in 21 verses: Judges 5:10, 1 Chronicles 16:9, Job 7:11, Job 7:13, Job 12:8, Psalm 55:17Psalm 69:12Psalm 77:3Psalm 77:6, Psalm 77:12Psalm 105: 2Psalm 119:15Psalm 119:23Psalm 119:27Psalm 119:48Psalm 119:78Psalm 119:148Psalm 143:5Psalm 145:5, Proverbs 6:22, and Isaiah 53:8.

In the New Testament, the word “meditate” is used in two different ways, and can be studied with the Strong’s Concordance using the following keys:

1. G3191: http://biblehub.com/str/greek/3191.htm

● Used in two verses: Acts 4:25 and 1 Timothy 4:15.

2. G4304: http://biblehub.com/str/greek/4304.htm

● Used in one verse: Luke 21:14.

Go ahead and click on each link to each scripture and read. Don’t forget to click on the original Hebrew or Greek to study what each word means in context to the verse in which it is used.

Take your time. This article will still be here when you are done. 🙂

Now that you have read each Scripture, allow me to remind you of four things that I have clearly laid out and proven thus far in this article:

1. The definition of “to meditate” as it is practiced by those who are seeking after the occult, whether consciously or unconsciously is: “to engage in mental exercise (such as concentration on one’s breathing or repetition of a mantra) for the purpose of reaching a heightened level of spiritual awareness.” (Merriam-Webster online dictionary)

2. The central goal of occult meditation is to search deep within oneself to find a solution to one’s own problems outside of God and Scripture. It is to undergo “a type of ‘spiritual evolution’ through which one may reach ‘god,’ whether within or without, achieving a ‘god-like status’ for oneself in one way or another. Other ways of describing this concept include: becoming one with the Divine, Enlightenment, understanding the Divine within oneself, unity with universal consciousness or with the Christ consciousness, raising or expanding consciousness, Nirvana, Zen, et cetera.”

3. The intent of an occult meditation is to achieve a hypnotic, dissociative, disconnected, altered state of mind through which spiritual experiences can be had to one degree or another, and through which a “deeper understanding” of oneself can be had.

4. The true effect of occult meditation is causing people to become open to the suggestion and control of the demonic.

Now answer these questions, if you will:

1. Of all the Scriptures you just read, did any of them describe an occult meditation as being something of God?

2. Of all the Scriptures you just read, did any of them advocate “finding the answers within yourself” or “seeking for a solution outside of God and His Word?” Did any of them speak to a “spiritual evolution whereby you can reach or become like God?”

3. Of all the Scriptures you just read, did any of them describe an occult intent to achieve a hypnotic, dissociative, altered state of mind?

4. Of all the Scriptures you just read, did any of them advocate or promote the effects of opening yourself up to the suggestion and control of the demonic?

The singular answer to all these questions, of course, is a resounding “NO!

So whether you practice an occult meditation but since you call yourself a Christian, you think it’s okay and you are immune to the consequences; or whether you participate in meditation but have purposefully given “Christian-sounding names” to your activities; or whether you are engaging in occult meditation without realizing it — by participating in such, you are opening yourself up to the demonic and have been aligned with the spirit of the antichrist.

Kurt Koch, in his book “Occult ABC: Exposing Occult Practices and Ideologies,” writes:

Is there such a thing as a positive meditation? Yes, there is a kind of meditation which is legitimate for Christians, for which we must be open:

Faithful Bible reading accompanied by believing prayer,
Thinking over the word of truth,
Searching one’s conscious in the light of God,
All, and more besides, under the guidance of the Holy Spirit, who leads us into all truth. (p 146)

…do we need a Hindu monk to teach us how to relax? We have Jesus, the Son of God, who has brought us not just relaxation but redemption, deliverance from our “deep self,” and peace. (p 249)

Meditation as the world practices it is self-centered. Meditation as is found in Scripture is God-centered.

What are you seeking? If you want what is of God, then why don’t you first go to the Word of God to find your answers?

● Do you seek peace? Instead, seek the Prince of Peace! See: Isaiah 9:6, John 14:27, John 16:33, 2 Corinthians 13:11, Ephesians 2:17, Philippians 4:7.

● Do you seek knowledge and wisdom? Instead, seek the Giver of knowledge and wisdom! See: Romans 11:33, Colossians 2:2-3, James 1:5, James 3:13-182 Peter 1:2-8, 2 Peter 3:18.

● Do you seek truth? Seek after the Spirit of Truth and the truth found in the Word of God! See: Psalm 119:30John 8:31-32, John 14:6John 14:17John 16:13John 17:17, 3 John 1:3-4.

● Do you seek a close relationship with the Heavenly Father? Begin studying His Word to find out how to accomplish this! Here’s a hint: this is accomplished because of and through Jesus Christ! See: Acts 10:43Acts 13:38-39, 1 Corinthians 6:9-11Galatians 2:16, Titus 3:3-7Hebrews 7:11-28, Hebrews 10:19-22, James 4:8.

Rather than seeking to fulfill your own needs, seek the One who gives you what you need when you need it. Don’t seek after solutions for your problems or answers to life by seeking after the ways of the world! Seek after your Heavenly Father and after the truth that is found in His Word, and He will supply all of your needs according to His riches in glory in Christ Jesus. (Philippians 4:19)

 Personal Response to the Email

Now let’s dissect the first email that spoke about meditation.

Comment One

“I am a Christian and I have been meditating for over 40 years. I started doing TM when I was in college and still do it to this day. I stopped using the mantra when I became a Christian. I’ve prayed about this many times and feel that God has given me the “green light” on this.”

First, you can not call yourself a Christian and still openly and knowingly participate in occult activities. I hope this article has helped open your eyes to the fact that what you are practicing is not of God.

Second, God will not give a “green light” on something that is not of Him. None of us are allowed certain “exceptions.”

Third, this is a perfect example of the principle that the following Scriptures (as well as many, many more) are speaking about:

2 Thessalonians 2:9-12 (BSB)

“The coming of the lawless one will be accompanied by the working of Satan, with every kind of power, sign, and false wonder, and with every wicked deception directed against those who are perishing, because they refused the love of the truth that would have saved them. For this reason, God will send them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie, in order that judgment will come upon all who have disbelieved the truth and delighted in wickedness.”

2 Timothy 4:3-4 (BSB)

“For there will be a time when they will not endure sound teaching, but according to the own desires, having an itching ear, they will gather around them teachers to suit themselves, and indeed they will turn away from hearing the truth, and will be turned aside unto myths.”

Romans 1:28 (BSB)

“Furthermore, since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, He gave them up to a depraved mind, to do what should not be done.”

1 Kings 22:23 (NLT)

“So you see, the LORD has put a lying spirit in the mouths of all your prophets. For the LORD has pronounced your doom.”

Acts 7:42a (BSB)

“But God turned away from them and gave them over to the worship of the heavenly bodies…”

Isaiah 63:10 (NLT)

“But they rebelled
And grieved His Holy Spirit;
Therefore He turned Himself to become their enemy,
He fought against them.”

Psalm 81:12 (NLT)

“So I let them follow their own stubborn desires, living according to their own ideas.”

(emphasis added)

Here’s what I mean by sharing these particular verses: if you are so bent on doing what you are going to do anyway, regardless of what Scripture says and regardless of the will of God, God is going to allow you to do exactly what it is that you want. No one is stopping you, not even God! But keep this in mind: He will always be contending against you. Why? Because He will never bend His will to submit to your own, and He will not change the truth of His Word because of your personal belief system.

Sometimes our “prayers” sound like this, or some variation thereof: “Okay God, here’s what I want to do. If you don’t want me doing it, then tell me and stop me from doing it.”

But this is not prayer.

So what is prayer?

I wrote about the meaning of prayer in this short blog article, but to briefly recap, praying is:

“to exchange wishes; pray – literally, to interact with the Lord by switching human wishes (ideas) for His wishes as He imparts faith (“divine persuasion”)”

Sources: http://biblehub.com/greek/4335.htm and http://biblehub.com/greek/4336.htm

So when you pray, you are not asking for your will to be done, nor you are not attempting to persuade God to see things your way. No! When you pray, you are exchanging your will for His will, and as you do this, He imparts the ability for you to be divinely persuaded concerning His will.

And how do you know the will of the Father? One sure way is by studying His written Word (the Bible) and finding out what it means!

Here’s what I mean by this line of reasoning: when you go to the Word of God and you study about what meditation really means according to Scripture, you will realize that the occult way of meditation is not God’s way of meditation. In this way, since you say you are a Christian, you will realize what the will of the Father is in this regard, and you will submit to His will, staying away from that which is displeasing to Him.

Comment Two

“I have chronic fatigue syndrome and meditating to me is just a deep form of relaxation and “rebooting” and really helps me with fatigue and stress.”

What makes you think that meditation is the only way of relaxing and rebooting? What makes you think that meditation is the only method whereby you can find relief from fatigue and stress? The fact is, there are many different ways of relaxing and rebooting, and you don’t have to practice the occult to do so. Likewise, there are many different methods to help with your fatigue and stress, and you don’t have to practice the occult to do so.

Please understand that I’m not a health professional, so my opinions and suggestions are not to be taken as medical advise (please see our full disclaimer), and neither am I attempting to diagnose anyone, but aside from seeing a medical doctor for any medical issues that need to be tended to, here are some general things that can be helpful in relaxing, rebooting, and overcoming fatigue and stress. You are likely already familiar with the benefits of these things, but for the sake of this blog post and for the sake of others reading this blog post, I’ll share them anyway. 🙂

  1. Exercise. And by this, I don’t mean “Yoga,” as will be briefly explained further down in this article.
  2. A healthy diet.
    • This includes what you put in your body as well as what you put on your body, so stay away from toxic substances as much as you are able. Your body will thank you for it.
    • Some studies show that health concerns such as CFS may be caused by or exacerbated by foods allergies, so study up on what may be causing or worsening your symptoms. This is something you may want to speak to a doctor about.
    • This also includes a daily vitamin regimen. There are certain vitamins that have been shown to be very helpful in combating CFS, so study up on it.
  3. Get plenty of rest.
  4. Relax and learn to not take things so seriously. Many people use meditation and yoga to learn to relax and find peace, and even many doctors will advocate this. But as I have clearly shown, this is not Biblical. It is a spiritual practice that is foundational to mystic, Eastern religions, and it is opening you up to the demonic, allowing them to control you through a type of “spiritual drug,” ultimately aligning you with the spirit of the antichrist. Yes, you will very likely have “feel good feelings,” like many people do, but this is because if it didn’t feel good, you wouldn’t engage in these types of demonic activities, and the demonic would not have easy access to you through this route. Instead, here are some suggestions that are safe and Biblically sound:
    • As has already been stated, rest. If you are able, take a nap in the middle of the day. Even if it is only a short period of time — even ten or fifteen minutes — where you just lie back and close your eyes without sleeping, do so. Take this time to pray to your Heavenly Father and share with Him your burdens. This “praying to your Heavenly Father as you rest” is  described in verses that I shared above, such as Psalm 63:6 or Psalm 77:6, and it’s something I do quite often, especially when I awake in the middle of the night and can’t fall back asleep.
    • Learn to enjoy the simple things in life: the feel of the warm sun on your face, the scent of a flower garden, birds twittering and rustling in the treetops, squirrels chasing each other on the lawn, children laughing and playing on the playground, a delicious home-cooked meal. Whatever it is that brings you joy (within Godly limits, of course), learn to live in that moment and enjoy it.
    • Pick up a hobby that is relaxing and fun. Anything from gardening to kayaking, from wood-working to painting, from cooking to tinkering with old cars or engines… find something to do that you enjoy (again, within Godly limits, of course), and then allow yourself to enjoy it.
  5. Meditate (study, ponder upon, contemplate, consider, speak) on His Word, as has already been explained.
  6. Submit to the will of the Father in your life. You may be surprised at how much peace this brings to you!

Comment Three

“I don’t think it’s any different than sleep; I wouldn’t be able to reach that state unless God gave me that ability in the first place.”

This argument doesn’t make sense. We are all spiritual beings and we are all capable of having spiritual experiences. However, just because we are able to have spiritual experiences does not automatically make every spiritual experience that we have or seek after to be something that is good for us. So this excuse doesn’t hold water. This is like saying that since you have the ability to murder or bring harm to others, then doing so is okay. It just doesn’t make sense.

Comment Four

“I don’t invite spirits in no more than I would if sleeping or any other activity.”

Just as the simple act of breathing is not an occult activity, neither is sleeping, and the mere act of sleeping is not inviting demons into your spiritual space, so this analogy doesn’t apply to this situation at all.

That said, however, if you are participating in occult activity, then when you sleep, you are more susceptible to being invaded and used by the demonic, because you are not living under submission to the will of the Father in your life, and you are being disobedient to His Word. These activities could be overtly occult, such as yoga or meditation that we are speaking of in this article, or they could be occult activities that are disguised as “christian” activity. We wrote about some common “christian” occult activities in our book, and they include: courtrooms of heavengatewaysseat of dominionspirit traveling to or having visions of so-called heavenly places, having interactions with so-called angels, an antichrist Jesus, or what is presumed to be the dead, and engaging in a false, unscriptural spiritual warfare.

Will you always be invaded by spirits when you sleep? I can’t say for certain, because I don’t know every single person on the face of the earth and I’m not privy to each situation of these individuals. But I am speaking to what I know is common: if you are engaged in occult activities, you are going to be more susceptible to the demonic when you are asleep.

Comment Five

“I think one would want or ask the demons in–gave them permission so to speak. I don’t believe what I’m doing is inviting in any “unwanted” guests. I do believe that channeled beings are demonic and I’m pretty much on board with most of what you believe. I have done some yoga in the past and really think one can do some of it with out inviting in spirits. That’s what I believe.”

You might think this and you might sincerely believe your own thoughts to be true, but it is not the truth.

As I stated in the introduction of this article: all occult activity opens you up to the demonic. It doesn’t matter if you call yourself a Christian or an atheist, if you engage in occult activity you are opening yourself up to the demonic.

There are no exceptions.

You aren’t given a “get out of jail free” card because you call yourself a Christian.

You aren’t given a free pass if you are generally a good person.

You aren’t exempt from this fact even by being ignorant of the truth behind any occult activities that you are involved in.

All occult activity is an invitation to the demonic to enter into you and control and influence you to one degree or another. Period.

Comment Six

“I have been sober 27 years and I must be doing something right.”

I congratulate you on your continued sobriety. I know that this is not a feat that is easy to achieve. However, while you may be “doing something right,” it certainly is not in regards to meditation.

Please consider two things:

1. There are different ways other than meditation to stop addictions to substances or to harmful, addictive behaviors in general.

2. You have traded one addiction for another: the “feel-good feelings” of the demonic drug are addictive, but it doesn’t make it healthy.

I understand my last point is likely not a concept that may be easy to understand or even agree with, but it is my hope that after reading this entire article, that you understand why I say this to you.

Yoga

While I have plenty of experience in meditation, both of the blatantly occult side and of the so-called “christian” occult side, I haven’t had much experience in yoga as far as from a “yoga studio” side of meditation. In other words, I never signed up for yoga classes. In fact, coming from the “pentecostal/apostolic aspect” of the religion I was born into, I was taught growing up that yoga was absolutely of Satan. And it is. It’s awfully ironic, however, that the churches I grew up in had been infiltrated by Satanists, my stepfather being one. Although, to be sure, he never practiced yoga. It likely expended too much effort for him, to be honest. He wasn’t so concerned about the “enlightened” part as he was interested in the “power and control” aspect of things. Such is what appears to be one of the major surface differences between Luciferianism and Satanism that I have noticed for myself. But this difference is only surface, because inherently, there is no difference between Satanism and Luciferianism, and both groups are hungry for power and control, and both groups seek an enlightenment in their own way. The “difference” lies in appearance, perception, and semantics, but truthfully, they are one and the same.

So while I have never attended a yoga class in a studio, I am qualified to speak on this subject for two main reasons:

1. First, I understand about meditation, an aspect that is integral to yoga. You can’t have yoga without some form of meditation. The two are inseparable.

2. Second, although I never went to a yoga class, in my early twenties, I began using basic yoga postures at home, along with a meditation, to more easily facilitate encounters with a demonic being that I considered to be an “angel.” So I have a deep understanding that the practice of yoga is very much creating an alignment between yourself and the demonic in a sensual (having to do with the human senses, sometimes even sexual), basic way. Will yoga cause you to have the types of encounters that I had, and will they be as involved as mine were? Maybe, maybe not. You may never become aware of any contact with the demonic through yoga, and if you do, your encounters may be more involved than mine or they may be less involved. But the fact remains: yoga is a series of physical, mental, and spiritual “exercises” that are preparing your body to literally be possessed by the demonic to increasing degrees.

Now that that is out of the way, let’s move on. 🙂

Meditation is an integral part of Yoga, so if you have read with understanding the above material, and if you are someone who truly wants to please your Heavenly Father and do what is right, then you will not practice yoga, either.

But let’s dive into some basic understandings of yoga.

Yoga is a practice that originated from India. So let’s go to the website of the government of India to find out for ourselves what they have to say about Yoga.

The following are several quotes from the article on their webpage, along with my commentary.18

Quote One: (emphasis added)

“Yoga is essentially a spiritual discipline based on an extremely subtle science, which focuses on bringing harmony between mind and body.”

“Yoga does not adhere to any particular religion, belief system or community.”

There are three basic points to make about these statements:

1. At the very least, just because yoga is not restricted to one particular religion does not mean that it is not a spiritual exercise, and this is stated outright.

2. However, the last statement is purposefully misleading, and they are using “doublespeak” in order to facilitate a state of “doublethink” in the larger population world-wide, in particular, ignorant and obtuse westerners. (See: “Doublespeak and Doublethink” to read about this general mind-control and brainwashing technique.)

What these statements are not saying is that yoga is not a foundational part of Indian mystic religious traditions. Because the truth is, yoga is a foundational part of these mystic religions, such as Hinduism, Buddhism, and Jainism, because it originated out of these mystic religions. So this statement should read that “Yoga doesn’t adhere to just one particular religion, belief system or community.” Because even according to them, there are many different “philosophical” viewpoints of yoga (also called “schools”) within the mystic religions of India of which yoga is a foundational part of their belief system and religious practices, and each school of yoga has different goals and values.

Furthermore, while different styles and types of yoga may have since popped up (for instance, “Anusara yoga19), they are still part of the mystic Indian religious traditions, regardless of how they have been sugar-coated for those with westernized tastes.

☛ See also: https://www.matsmatsmats.com/yoga/yoga-disciplines.html

3. Lastly, what these statements are ultimately saying is that you don’t have to “convert” to any type of religion in order to practice yoga. In other words, they allow everyone to practice their occult traditions without converting to Buddhism, Hinduism, or Jainism, or any other mystic Indian religion.

To offer an analogy: this is the same as any Christian denomination telling you that you are allowed to go to their churches, participate in services, go to their potluck dinners, give your tithe money to them, offer your support for their endless building funds, but you don’t necessarily have to join up and be an actual member.

Quote Two: (emphasis added)

“The word ‘Yoga’ is derived from the Sanskrit root ‘Yuj’, meaning ‘to join’ or ‘to yoke’ or ‘to unite’. As per Yogic scriptures the practice of Yoga leads to the union of individual consciousness with that of the Universal Consciousness, indicating a perfect harmony between the mind and body, Man & Nature. According to modern scientists, everything in the universe is just a manifestation of the same quantum firmament.”

Please take note of three things.

1. “Union with the Universal Consciousness”

There are many terms used that mean the same thing as “Universal Consciousness,” such as “the Divine, Divine Consciousness, Supreme Consciousness, Source” and when occultists speak of a union with this “universal consciousness,” this is actually speaking to a union with the demonic and with the spirit of the antichrist. Regardless of how it makes people feel, it is not a positive thing.

I’ve already discussed what this connection does, so I won’t rehash the details, but I will remind you that Carolyn and I also go into detail about this throughout our book, so I encourage you to read it.

2. “Manifestation of the same quantum firmament”

This is speaking to “quantum or fractal spirituality,” also known as “emanationism.” I’ve already touched on this, but Carolyn and I explained this unbiblical concept thoroughly in our book. To remind you, you can read about it here:

https://askcarolynandloren.com/book/section-three-some-teachings-and-practices/i-spirit-man/#spirit-man-emanationism 

3. “Harmonizing oneself with the universe”

This is again speaking of this “fractal spirituality,” and it is not a Biblical, Godly concept whatsoever, but is an occult concept. It is one avenue through which the demonic are controlling people and hooking them up to the spirit of the antichrist.

Quote Three: (emphasis added)

“One who experiences this oneness of existence is said to be in yoga, and is termed as a yogi, having attained to a state of freedom referred to as mukti, nirvana or moksha. Thus the aim of Yoga is Self-realization, to overcome all kinds of sufferings leading to ‘the state of liberation’ (Moksha) or ‘freedom’ (Kaivalya).”

In the meditation section, I’ve already talked about this “self-realization” and “understanding or overcoming all sufferings,” so I won’t go over it again. But I will remind you that we understand and overcome suffering through Jesus Christ as we daily pick up our cross and follow His example of living in submission to the will of the Heavenly Father and in obedience to His Word.

It’s important to note, too, that “overcoming” doesn’t mean “avoiding or eliminating all suffering,” contrary to the attitude of many self-proclaimed Christians today, including spiritists, such as charismatic “christian” occultists.

Quote Four: (emphasis added)

“For many, the practice of yoga is restricted to Hatha Yoga and Asanas (postures). However, among the Yoga Sutras, just three sutras are dedicated to asanas. Fundamentally, Hatha yoga is a preparatory process so that the body can sustain higher levels of energy. The process begins with the body, then the breath, the mind, and the inner self.”

Please note two things:

1. When they say “preparatory process,” this is speaking to a series of physical, mental, and spiritual “exercises” that are preparing your body to literally be possessed by the demonic to increasing degrees.

2. “Higher levels of energy” is not only speaking to demonic energy, but is also speaking of levels of “enlightenment” within yoga practices, often corresponding with the supposed chakras, also known as “spiritual centers.” Carolyn and I wrote about these “spiritual centers” in our book. You can read about it here:

https://askcarolynandloren.com/book/section-three-some-teachings-and-practices/iii-other-christian-occult-teachings/#seat-of-dominion

There are also teachings on what is known as “the eight limbs” of yoga, a series of steps that one goes through as they work their way up through an enlightenment process. Beginning from the lowest level and working up to the highest level, these eight levels are:20

● Yama

Basically, this is following five rules which are: “nonviolence, truthfulness, nonstealing, continence, noncoveteousness.”

● Niyama

This is following five additional rules, which are: “cleanliness, contentment, spiritual austerities, the study of sacred scripture and of one’s self” (in case you are wondering, the “sacred scripture” they are talking about is not the Word of God) and, “surrender to ‘God'” (in case you are wondering, they aren’t talking about the Heavenly Father, Creator of all).

☛ Note: Don’t these first two stages sound nice? Ah…! Satan comes disguised as an angel of light, for certain, and it appears he has his own version of “the ten commandments!” Looks like he forgot a few, though, including “Thou shalt have no other gods before me.” Hmm…

But moving on! Let’s continue with the next two stages:

● Asana

These are the poses and postures that are practiced in yoga, and includes a “Hatha” yoga, a common form among westerners.

They say: “Through the practice of asanas, we develop the habit of discipline and the ability to concentrate, both of which are necessary for meditation.”

☛ Note: Of course, if you’ve read the above information on meditation, you’ll see why this is not of God and why is it not based on sound Scripture, and that this “concentration” is simply a precursor to learning how to dissociate or disconnect. But by saying “concentrate,” they make you think it’s just the opposite of what it actually is.

Doublespeak, anyone?

●Pranayama

This is “breath control,” and it is “designed to gain mastery over the respiratory process while recognizing the connection between the breath, the mind, and the emotions.”

They then go on to say: “These first four stages of Patanjali’s ashtanga yoga concentrate on refining our personalities, gaining mastery over the body, and developing an energetic awareness of ourselves, all of which prepares us for the second half of this journey, which deals with the senses, the mind, and attaining a higher state of consciousness.”

☛ Note: This “breath control” is exactly what I talked about in the section on meditation: a focusing on the breathing.

And in case you missed it, by participating in what you thought was a simple act of “exercises,” you have already gone through the first four stages of yoga, preparing yourself physically, emotionally, and mentally, to be consumed by the demonic. Think you missed the first two stages? Nope! The moment you began your yoga practices, you came into agreement with the first two stages. Ignorance is not an excuse.

Congrats! You’re halfway there!

But let’s continue on with the last four stages of yoga.

● Pratyahara

This means “withdrawal or sensory transcendence.”

They say: “It is during this stage that we make the conscious effort to draw our awareness away from the external world and outside stimuli. Keenly aware of, yet cultivating a detachment from, our senses, we direct our attention internally.”

● Dharana

This means “concentration.”

They say: “In the practice of concentration, which precedes meditation, we learn how to slow down the thinking process by concentrating on a single mental object: a specific energetic center in the body, an image of a deity, or the silent repetition of a sound.”

☛ Note: Congratulations. These two stages have taught you how to easily dissociate and disconnect, if you hadn’t already learned to do so.

● Dhyana

They say, “Meditation or contemplation, the seventh stage of ashtanga, is the uninterrupted flow of concentration…. Where dharana practices one-pointed attention, dhyana is ultimately a state of being keenly aware without focus. At this stage, the mind has been quieted, and in the stillness it produces few or no thoughts at all.”

☛ Note: Congratulations. You have just entered into a perpetual state of dissociation and disconnection.

● Samadhi

This is described as a state of “ecstasy.”

They say: “At this stage, the meditator merges with his or her point of focus and transcends the Self altogether. The meditator comes to realize a profound connection to the Divine, an interconnectedness with all living things. With this realization comes the “peace that passeth all understanding”; the experience of bliss and being at one with the Universe.”

☛ Note: To remind you — this “connection to the divine” that they speak of is a connection to the spirit of the antichrist, and the “interconnectedness” is speaking to “fractal or quantum spirituality.”

And again, congratulations. You have now finished aligning yourself with the antichrist. Of course, this process was complete when you first opened yourself up. But, hey… having a logical process such as these “eight limbs” may cause some to think that they can avoid this alignment with the antichrist spirit if they can just avoid the last stage of yoga. But they are mistaken.

See also: http://integralyogamagazine.org/yoga-asanas-the-3rd-stage-of-yoga/

So after reading all this about yoga, and after reading everything about meditation, please explain, if you can, how meditation is not a central part of yoga and how yoga is not, essentially, the same thing as meditation…!

Here are more quotes from the website of the government of India.

Quote Five: (emphasis added)

“Yoga is also commonly understood as a therapy or exercise system for health and fitness. While physical and mental health are natural consequences of yoga, the goal of yoga is more far-reaching. Yoga is about harmonizing oneself with the universe. It is the technology of aligning individual geometry with the cosmic, to achieve the highest level of perception and harmony.”

Two points:

1. I’ve already discussed this “harmonizing oneself with the universe,” and what it means to be “aligned with the cosmic,” and I’ve shown you what these levels are.

2. I’ve also talked about this “fractal spirituality,” and when they talk of “aligning individual geometry with the cosmic,” this is what they are speaking of.

So, fundamentally speaking, yoga is an occult activity, and when you engage in this activity you are uniting with the demonic and entering into a false unity, a unity that hooks you up to the spirit of the antichrist.

There is no need to use demonic practices to exercise, stretch, and to find peace and harmony.

As far as exercises and stretching, there are other exercises that people have been doing for years, long before yoga came around, that are just as healthy and helpful without being spiritually dangerous. Do some study on them, consult a medical practitioner if you need to, but if you are a Christian, you will understanding that yoga is not something that is a spiritually healthy exercise.

And as far as peace and harmony, the Bible clearly teaches that peace and harmony is found in having a relationship with your Heavenly Father, something that is only found through Jesus Christ, as His Spirit works in you and through you. ❤

Conclusion

Considering what you now know about meditation and yoga, why would you, as a Christian, want to practice these things? Why would you see this as something that is Biblically safe and acceptable?

Please remember that not everything that “feels good” is good. Good feelings do not necessarily equal Biblically sound and spiritually safe, and what is real is not always truth that comes from God.

Also remember that ignorance of the facts of mediation and yoga isn’t going to protect you from the consequences of your actions, but now that you have been warned, you have no excuse.

But after knowing all the things I have written about in this article, and after understanding where all these things are coming from, if you still are compelled to try to justify your occult actions and pretend that since you call yourself a Christian that it makes it okay to practice occult activities, to you I say: “Go for it! No one is stopping you, not even God!” All I am trying to do is warn you that it is not of God, it is not Biblical, and that it is not spiritually safe. What you choose to do with this information is entirely up to you.

So follow after occult activities if that is what you want to do, but stop taking the name of the Lord in vain and pretending to be a follower of Jesus Christ when you clearly are not.

I leave you with a Scripture to meditate upon (now you know what that means!).

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Blessings,
Loren ❤


I realize that since these two topics of meditation and yoga are complicated subjects, you, the reader, may still have questions that haven’t been addressed, or questions about anything that has been written in this article. So if Carolyn and I receive emails with follow-up questions about these two topics, I may decide to update this blog article with our responses, so keep a lookout. 🙂


Aside from writing from my own experiences and understanding, the following are other sources I used in writing this article:

1.  https://askcarolynandloren.com/book/section-one/chapter-5-goal-of-the-infiltrators-within-charismatic-christianity/

2http://pulpitandpen.org/2017/12/20/charismatics-using-christian-ouija-board-to-communicate-with-angels/

3http://pulpitandpen.org/2017/12/19/to-be-edited-bethel-tarot-cards/

4. Sources include: PositivePsychologyProgram.com and Chopra.com

5http://www.contemplativemind.org/practices/tree/loving-kindness

6Sources include:

https://www.thesecretsofyoga.com/meditation/different-types-of-meditation.html#buddhist
https://visualmeditation.co/7-types-of-meditation/
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-courage-be-present/201001/how-practice-mindfulness-meditation
http://www.vipassana.com/meditation/mindfulness_in_plain_english_15.php
http://meditationscience.weebly.com/what-is-mindfulness-meditation.html
http://mentalhealthdaily.com/2015/03/24/types-of-meditation-extensive-list-of-techniques/

7 See: http://metro.co.uk/2015/12/01/if-you-repeat-a-lie-enough-people-think-its-true-5536488/ (please pardon the annoying gifs on this page), http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20161026-how-liars-create-the-illusion-of-truth, and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lie 

8Koch, Kurt E. Between Christ and Satan. Grand Rapids, MI: Kregel Publications, 1971. 85.

9.  https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/mindfulness-wellbeing/201603/dangers-meditation

10. https://www.livestrong.com/article/520586-transcendental-meditation-effects/

11. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/06/the-dark-knight-of-the-souls/372766/

12http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/features/meditation-is-touted-as-a-cure-for-mental-instability-but-can-it-actually-be-bad-for-you-10268291.html

13. http://www.suggestibility.org/index.shtml

14. http://www.suggestibility.org/surprise.php

15. http://tmfree.blogspot.com/2017/12/an-excerpt-from-meditation-safety-guide.html

16. Koch, Kurt E. Occult ABC: Exposing Occult Practices and Ideologies. Grand Rapids, MI. Kregel Publications, 1986.

17. https://askcarolynandloren.com/book/section-three-some-teachings-and-practices/i-spirit-man/#point-5-delusion

18. http://www.mea.gov.in/in-focus-article.htm?25096/Yoga+Its+Origin+History+and+Development

19. https://www.anusarayoga.com/philosophy/

20https://www.yogajournal.com/practice/the-eight-limbs


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13 thoughts on “Meditation and Yoga: a Deeper Look into Occult Practices that are Deceiving Christians Today

  1. Dearest Loren and Carolyn,

    In our society, we are so lucky to have freedom of religion written into our constitutions in most if not all western countries along with many other freedoms that I am so happy to have. I am guessing that this is true in your country as well. I respect your right to be Christian and to follow god in the best way that you know how and am overjoyed if this fills your life with peace, love, and happiness.
    While you are also entitled to your own opinion you should know that much of what you have written here is a gross misrepresentation of the Buddha Dharma. It is completely insulting to the all the fine traditions of Buddhism and Hinduism. You have without shame mixed up, misunderstood, and misquoted much if not all of what you have written. The errors are too many to mention. What gives you the right to insult and demonize​ the wisdom traditions that have been practised in the east for many 1000’s of years and now in the west for the last 100 years in such a way? As a former Christian, I must say that this is a good example of why I was so sick I left the church. Why cannot you be happy if meditation and the Buddha Dharma fills the lives of more than 1 billion people with love, joy, equanimity, and compassion?

    With love,
    QP

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    1. Hi QP,

      I appreciate you reading the article and for taking the time to comment. I have pointed out the dangers not only from my own personal experiences, but also from taking word-for-word quotes from what others have said about meditation and yoga, both the so-called “positive” (and explaining why it is not positive at all), as well as the hidden dangers that very few seem to be willing to talk about. Carolyn has also spent a bit of time on different forums warning others of the dangers of meditation and yoga from her own personal experiences. That said, I know I’m going against the majority of what society believes and practices today. I’m okay with that. 🙂

      You are certainly free to do and believe as you wish. No one is forcing you to understand or accept what I have written, and no one is stopping you from doing or believing what you wish to do and believe.

      Again, thank you for adding your thoughts to the conversation. I hope you have a wonderful day/evening, and I pray that you will come to know the blessings of a relationship with the Heavenly Father, of walking in submission to His will, and in obedience to His Word.

      ~ Loren ❤

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  2. Hi Loren. I would like to ask you to clear up a couple things. First, Is doing Hathaway Yoga. The physical postures minus and chanting ok to do. Also. And I know this an age old question. Where is God during school shootings, or when children are being sold into sex slavery, or for that matter when Hitler was killing the Jews

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    1. Hi Shawn,

      I thought I was clear in this article, but I’ll try to make it more clear: yoga is an occult practice, and it is not something that is of God. It’s not something I would condone in any fashion or form. I hope this helps clarify my position.

      Even though your second question may be” an age-old question,” it’s still a great one! 🙂 It can be hard to reconcile in our mind our own suffering, the suffering of mankind as a whole, and God, all in the same space. But this is a question that will have to be addressed in a separate blog article. We’ve already had a couple of email questions along this line, and I’ve been thinking over how I want to word a response. Not sure when it’ll be done. We have several articles that are half-written, but we’re working on it.

      Thanks for reading and thanks for your questions! I hope you have a blessed day. ❤

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  3. Hi Shawn,

    I appreciate you inquiring about my health. 🙂 I’m been undergoing cancer treatment since last fall when I finally got the proper diagnosis after a few years of being ill and not knowing why. As with the case of all those I know of who have battled cancer and those who are battling it now, it certainly isn’t a picnic. The first stage of treatment has left me quite weak, however, as of the last few days, I am starting to get a little stronger. It has really helped me that I have a strong support group and top notch doctors who are all working together to help me battle this thing. I’m not out of the woods yet. I still have months more of procedures ahead. I am optimistic though. Just taking things a day at a time and sometimes a moment at a time and putting my trust in my Heavenly Father knowing that His will in my life and for my life, will be done. 🙂

    Carolyn ❤

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    1. Thank you for your reply Carolyn. I know many people who have battled cancer and won. As my mother used to say. Cancer is no longer a death sentence. Hey this is kind of neat hearing from you. After reading your blog, and watching your videos for several years. At this point you seem like an old friend. Hang in there.

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