Pam’s Testimony

What follows is the testimony of Pam, former follower of Bride Ministries. We thank her for her courage and commitment to speak the truth in love. ❤


I first began listening to Daniel Duval through his interviews with Carolyn. I was very encouraged and grateful for Carolyn’s bravery to stand-up and speak the truth in love and expose the evil she had experienced. The ultimate message in those interviews was to trust Jesus with our whole hearts and also to test the spirits. I believed and still do that this was wise council, especially now more than ever, for He alone is worthy of all our trust and is our supreme authority.

Later, I saw a Facebook post Daniel Duval made, announcing a discipleship training course he was making available for free. I was a little hesitant, but decided this may be a great way to learn about discipling others. I greatly longed to know my Savior on a much deeper level!

Wow! I had no idea the teachings I would receive were far different from what I had always believed the Word of God taught. Just as the serpent twisted Scripture in the garden of Eden, and just as the Pharisees twisted Scripture in the time that Jesus walked this earth, it is still going on today. I witnessed this first-hand through the discipleship training courses, as Scripture was constantly being twisted and manipulated. This twisting of Scripture started off gradually, but by the time the last course was being taught, the false doctrine was becoming more obvious to me. Although, it wasn’t until several months after I finally left Bride Ministries and went through a spiritual detox that I fully recognized how nefarious and demonic Daniel’s teachings really were.

Discipleship Classes

Shortly prior to the first discipleship meeting, I had a panic attack and literally asked myself, “What are you doing?! Is this really the direction you want to head?!” I knew something was wrong, but I ignored my initial intuition and discernment, and convinced myself that I was allowing “the enemy” to deceive me from “doing my Father’s will.”

At first, the classes seemed to be sound with a lot of Scripture being quoted (and how could that ever be wrong?), but we never really studied the Scriptures to see what they truly meant. We were just asked what our interpretation was, and then Daniel told us what the “right” interpretation was. Looking back, I can see where I wasn’t being taught to follow Biblical doctrine, and I wasn’t being taught to follow Jesus, nor was I being taught to teach others how to follow Jesus (discipleship), but I was being taught to follow Daniel’s beliefs and what he said Scripture meant.

I went through the first three training courses, and by the time I got to the last one, spiritual warfare, Daniel had started charging around $50 per class. Although much Scripture continued to be cited in that final class, the major theme of the lessons centered around Daniel’s experiences in the spirit realm and the “proper procedure for battle”.

In all of the courses, before the start of each class, he would share with us stories of counseling sessions with his clients: of fantastical realms of higher dimensions, of how he was defeating the enemy in those realms, and how he was ripping them to shreds, blowing up spiritual libraries and demonic territories. Not understanding at that time that he was operating out of a spiritual warfare that is not based on Scripture, we all cheered, and praised Jesus for the strongholds that we thought had been demolished. I realize now that I saw absolutely no evidence that any strongholds were demolished. In fact, based on the relationships I later formed with some of his clients, it started to become apparent to me that they were getting worse, not better.

Daniel also promoted his book, “Kingdom Government and the Promise of Sheep Nations,” during the classes. He used selected information from that book in our “Kingdom” class, and it seemed very strange to me that he kept reciting “as above so below” in one of the classes, to try to explain a Biblical concept. This phrase was something that he also used in his book, when he wrote that this phrase is “occult, meaning they reveal hidden wisdom that utilizes demonic assistance to carry out certain things.” (See page 149-150 of “Kingdom Government and Sheep Nations”)

This is a huge red flag! Why would Christians think that an occult concept can explain a Scriptural concept? Lies and truth will never mix!

⇒ Note by Carolyn and Loren: “As Above, So Below” is part of a phrase that expresses an occult, Gnostic, theosophical principle that is linked to emanationism and fractal spirituality.

Concerns About the Bride Ministry DID Support Group

While going through the classes, Daniel started a support group for the SRA survivors he and his group were counseling, and asked if I would be one of the admins to help encourage others, pray for them, and to help keep a peaceful and safe environment. I agreed, and quickly began to love those in the small group. I was totally unequipped to counsel, but I knew the one thing I could do was to pray and ask the Holy Spirit for guidance. I felt very blessed to be part of this group and took praying for those in the group very seriously.

Unfortunately, however, throughout my time in the “SRA support group,” I witnessed first-hand some of the manipulation, backbiting, and lying that brought heartache to some of the survivors in that group. My spirit was grieved, and I began to seriously question what I saw happening. I blamed “the enemy” for sowing discord in our group, but little did I know at that time, was how deeply this enemy had infiltrated the camp directly through the leader, Daniel Duval.

Falling for Deception

I became friends with one of the other admins in the DID support group, and we would share video teachings to encourage each other. One video she shared with me was by Graham Cooke, and from there, I stumbled upon a video by Ian Clayton on healing. In my naivety, it seemed so appropriate to pray for healing in the way Clayton said, through going into the “courts of heaven,” especially since he quoted a lot of Scripture. So I shared it with her. I also shared a similar video with one of the SRA survivors who was in the group.

I want to stop right here to repent and apologize for sharing these videos. I ask forgiveness to all I have hurt by sharing these videos, and by opening a door that should have been left closed. Please forgive me.

Most of what Ian Clayton said made perfect sense to me in the beginning. I thought that he was so much more spiritual than I (having greater spiritual authority), and I fell into the trap. One thing that drew me into his trap, was that he professed an intense love for Jesus. But little did I know that he had a different spirit, he served a different “Jesus,” and the Scriptures he used to back up his teachings were Scriptures that were being twisted and used incorrectly. It was revealed much later that when going through these so-called courts, past “saints” would show up (Abraham, Noah and so on) in these “heavenly courtrooms.”

It’s so easy to hide a lie among layers and layers of truth. His Word teaches us it is an abomination to seek dead spirits, and the Bible makes no exceptions!

Deuteronomy 18:9-12 — When you come into the land that the Lord your God is giving you, you shall not learn to follow the abominable practices of those nations. There shall not be found among you anyone who burns his son or his daughter as an offering, anyone who practices divination or tells fortunes or interprets omens, or a sorcerer or a charmer or a medium or a necromancer or one who inquires of the dead, for whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord. And because of these abominations the Lord your God is driving them out before you. (ESV, emphasis mine)

Isaiah 8:19-22 — When men tell you to consult the spirits of the dead and the spiritists who whisper and mutter, shouldn’t a people consult their God instead? Why consult the dead on behalf of the living? To the law and to the testimony! If they do not speak according to this word, they have no light of dawn. They will roam the land, dejected and hungry. When they are famished, they will become enraged, and looking upward, they will curse their king and their God. Then they will look to the earth and see only distress and darkness and the gloom of anguish. And they will be driven into utter darkness. (BSB, emphasis mine)

At the same time, my friend was sharing with me information about the NAR (New Apostolic Reformation) intercessory prayer group conducted by Lance Wallnau, which complements the Seven-Mountain Mandate. After listening to his prayers a few times, I started researching the teachings and discovered did they not line up with God’s Word. I asked my friend to research this too, and told her it sounded heretical. She assured me she would look into it, yet she continued to seek it out.

At the end of this testimony, I share some research I’ve done on NAR and the “7-M Mandate.”

My friend also started talking about “Christian” seeing and hearing in the spirit, along with traveling in the spirit. I later discovered that these concepts aren’t Biblical, and that they are occult teachings that are being given Christian names. I also learned that they tie into the “spirit man” (a.k.a. “ministering to the human spirit”) and “dividing the soul and spirit teachings,” which are also not Biblical.

It is especially dangerous when there is no discernment of spirits. Satan can be so deceptive when we become vulnerable and are blind to his tactics. And that is one reason why I appreciate Carolyn and Loren so much! If it wasn’t for their bravery and commitment to boldly speak the truth, the false doctrines that they have exposed would continue deceiving even more at an even greater rate (consequently, Satan receiving even more worship and allegiance). I highly recommend to all who are seeking the truth to read their book “Doctrines of Demons” which they freely offer at no charge whatsoever. I learned so much more from their book about Satan’s deceptions and strategies than I ever could have imagined! This book goes into great detail about how they were exposed to, directed, coerced, and indoctrinated into the Luciferian agenda. They painstakingly reveal how what they learned, literally from birth, parallels what is now being taught in many “Christian” ministries, and they thoroughly explain how the same doctrines and beliefs that are being taught on the dark side are being subtly and progressively accepted by those claiming to be in the “light,” simply by changing the names, terms, and perceptions. Not only does this poison and infect our beliefs, but it prevents true healing from occurring. We are literally witnessing those who follow both the “right-hand path” and the “left-hand path” of occultism, as well as the demonic forces who are leading them, fighting against the One who came to set us free from all deception, false worship, idols and sin. Sadly, but expectantly, Carolyn and Loren (and now, we, because of their gracious willingness to share) are first-hand witnesses of the advancement of “The Plan” (a.k.a. the new world order), racing forward at an exponential rate. The tentacles run deeply, through not only the false doctrines Carolyn and Loren expose, but also through so many other false ministries that parade as “light” and yet are filled with darkness and evil agendas.

It’s heartbreaking to see so many blinded to the truth and heading straight into the hierarchy’s agenda for world domination. But I thank You so much, Father, for giving us eyes to see and ears to hear Your infallible Word, and to faithfully forgive us when we realize and repent from these abominations! May we cling undividedly and unconditionally to You!

Yoked Only to Yeshua

During our ongoing discipleship classes, Daniel announced his plans to start an online church, and talked about how he had seen, in the spirit, a room that was filled with gold and precious gems solely for himself. He said that he believed all of his ministry would be funded abundantly, and that he just needed to execute the mission. He later asked me to be a group leader for one of the small group classes he had planned to offer, and to also consider being a teacher in the discipleship training courses. I understood that I wouldn’t be paid for any of these positions, and Daniel implied that it would be “my gift” to his ministry.

I told him I would prayerfully consider it and let him know.

After praying, I felt the Holy Spirit reveal to me, “Be only yoked to Jesus.” I pondered the meaning of this and how I was to walk with Yeshua solely. Later that evening, my husband took me to a restaurant where there was a two-oxen yoke on the wall. This was the first time I had ever seen one in real life, and I so appreciate and love the way He shows His confirmations. The joy and peace I was filled with was very humbling and amazing!

Afterwards, I began seeing more clearly how many of the teachings from Bride Ministries were not lining up with the written Word of God.

I started noticing that he often shared how excited he was about how much money would flow into him, to allow “God’s” plans to be fulfilled, and he talked a lot about how much money was going to be given to him. Several times, I personally witnessed him freely and openly share his elation over “being told in the spirit” how vast amounts of money would flow into his ministry to further “God’s” kingdom. He called this “a supernatural wealth transfer.” Later, after I left Bride Ministries, I realized that this belief of Daniel’s was just a repackaged “Dominionism/NAR/Seven-Mountain Mandate” teaching on a “supernatural wealth transfer.”

He also put a great emphasis on ruling and governing realms before Messiah could return. This was part of Daniel’s “Kingdom Government/Sheep Nations” teachings that I began to realize are identical to the NAR/Seven-Mountain Mandate teachings. He was also teaching on dominionism; spirit man doctrines and dividing the soul and spirit; spiritual promotions; and talking to, partnering with, and being guided by “angels.”

By closely studying Daniel’s teachings and comparing them with the NAR/Seven-Mountain Mandate, it’s clear that regardless of Daniel calling his teachings “sheep nations,” or “kingdom government,” his teachings are identical to the Dominionism teachings of NAR/Seven-Mountain Mandate.

At the end of this testimony, I give examples of how closely Daniel’s teachings line up with these unbiblical doctrines.

After much study and prayer, many pieces of the puzzle came together, but this did not happen until I completely separated myself from Bride Ministries and everyone involved with that ministry. When I was still involved with them, I only saw very dimly the heresy behind Daniel’s teachings, but the further I removed myself the more I realized the apostasy of this doctrine.

DID Survivors — Healing or Re/Programming?

Towards the end of my involvement with Bride Ministries, another area that caused me great concern for the survivors in the support group were the interviews some of them were doing with Daniel Duval. They had already suffered so much trauma, and some of them were being further exploited by the graphic nature of the interviews they did with him. The trauma continued to play out, reopening past wounds and sufferings without any evidence of healing. Realizing this, I prayed hard that the scales would fall off their eyes, that their eyes would be opened, and that truth would be revealed. I hated seeing those I loved and cared for being used for their counselor’s gain.

Some of the survivors started sharing things in the group about their “counseling sessions,” causing me to think they were actually being programmed in those sessions. And I thought back to the book that Daniel had promoted and taught from in his discipleship classes, especially the Kingdom classes, where he cited direct quotes from the book he authored, “Kingdom Government and Sheep Nations.”

I went to the book and quickly found Chapter 3, titled “Programming the Heart.” The chapter begins with these words (emphasis mine):

“To understand how a society can be directed, or even controlled, we must understand what needs to be targeted. In order to direct society, one must assume control over the subconscious realm. This is synonymous with the heart. It is within this realm that the thoughts of the heart, meaning the compilation of carnal and spiritual knowledge, are creating a world-view. Directing a society is achieved by programming the hearts of the people in that society. Programming the heart can be defined as changing the thoughts of the heart.” (page 15)

He then wrote, “There are three main ways to program the heart,” and he proceeded to describe those different methods of programming throughout his book.

This led me to search out the definitions for control and target. Thesaurus.com defines control as meaning “command and mastery,” and uses the following synonyms for control:

  • authority
  • domination
  • force
  • government
  • jurisdiction
  • management
  • rule
  • supervision
  • ascendancy
  • dominion
  • manipulation
  • predomination
  • regimentation
  • ropes
  • strings
  • subjection
  • subordination
  • superintendence
  • supremacy
  • sway
  • upper hand

According to Merriam-Webster dictionary, the word “target” is defined as “a target or goal to achieve,” but it also means:

  • a mark to shoot at
  • something or someone fired at or marked for attack
  • an object of ridicule or criticism

Synonyms of target include: butt, mark, prey, sitting duck, victim

Words related to target: laughingstock, mockery, fall guy, goat, scapegoat, whipping boy

I don’t know why any Christian would want to target and control society or even someone else’s heart. This doesn’t sound like a Christian thing to do, but it does sounds like something Satan would do! Directing or controlling a society is manipulation and witchcraft!

It also doesn’t sound like something that a Christian counselor should do to clients, but it sure sounds like something that programmers would do! And it made me so angry to realize that he was hiding the truth all along, in plain sight, and telling everyone what he was doing: programming.

Here is what God’s Word says (emphasis mine):

Colossians 2:6-10 Therefore, as you accepted Messiah יהושע  Yeshua the Master, walk in Him, having been rooted and built up in Him, and established in the belief, as you were taught, overflowing in it with thanksgiving. See to it that no one makes a prey of you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary matters of the world, and not according to Messiah. Because in Him dwells all the completeness of the Mightiness bodily, and you have been made complete in Him, who is the Head of all principality and authority. (ISR 1998)

Romans 12:1-2 Therefore, brothers and sisters, in view of the mercies of God, I urge you to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God; this is your true worship. Do not be conformed to this age, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, so that you may discern what is the good, pleasing, and perfect will of God. (CSB)

Ephesians 4:17-25 Now this I say and testify in the Lord, that you must no longer walk as the Gentiles do, in the futility of their minds. They are darkened in their understanding, alienated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them, due to their hardness of heart. They have become callous and have given themselves up to sensuality, greedy to practice every kind of impurity. (ESV)

But that is not the way you learned Christ!— assuming that you have heard about Him and were taught in Him, as the truth is in Jesus, to put off your old self, which belongs to your former manner of life and is corrupt through deceitful desires, and to be renewed in the spirit of your minds, and to put on the new self, created after the likeness of God in true righteousness and holiness. Therefore, having put away falsehood, let each one of you speak the truth with his neighbor, for we are members one of another. (ESV)

Galatians 5:1 For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery. (ESV)

Separation from False Doctrine and Speaking the Truth

I left Bride Ministries and the groups associated with that ministry, because I felt I couldn’t be involved with a ministry that teaches false doctrine and exploits clients for personal advancement. And I continued to pray for those remaining (including Daniel), that their eyes would be opened and that they would see the truth and be set free from their own prison.

I praised our Father for His faithfulness when I found out that both Carolyn and Loren, too, had parted ways with Bride Ministries. And even greater, that He gave them the courage, perseverance, and the wisdom to reveal the deception they had experienced during their time with Bride Ministries, through their own blog and through a series of videos they published.

I also have witnessed, through her publishings since separating from Bride Ministries, that Loren has gone through much healing with a peaceful, loving, submissive heart to serving our One and only Messiah — something I did not see during the entire time she was involved with Bride Ministries. This is truly the Fruit of the Spirit that is evident in Loren’s life!

Both Loren and Carolyn have dedicated their lives to seeking truth. They not only have a passion to seek the truth, but just as importantly, a willingness to share what they have learned.

Yes, quietly acknowledging the truth they discovered through seeking the Holy Spirit has helped facilitate this healing, but had they not decided to publicly share their healing journey, it would have only benefited themselves and no one else. Even though it was painful, they poured out their experiences for all to see, in hopes that others would find healing as well. It would have been simple and much easier to avoid the attacks, lies, and hurtful accusations they have endured by sharing their experiences, but their love for Jesus and their love for those blinded to the truth gave them the strength and perseverance to expose the lies. How can anyone fully heal and be set free from a spiritual prison without knowing the truth?

Matthew 22:37-40 Jesus answered: Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, and mind. This is the first and most important commandment. The second most important commandment is like this one. And it is, “Love others as much as you love yourself.” All the Law of Moses and the Books of the Prophets are based on these two commandments. (CSB)

If they would have kept their mouths shut, they would not have been loving their neighbor. Carolyn and Loren have done all of this out of love, which is evidence of the Fruit of the Spirit in their lives.

I do not believe they were pre-programmed to take down Bride Ministries! On the contrary, it is my sincere conviction that the Holy Spirit (who is the Spirit of Truth) is helping us “Discover the Truth about Dan Duval” by “Exposing the Truth about Dan Duval and Bride Ministries” through His willing and faithful servants, Carolyn and Loren. I am a first-hand witness to confirm the truth of what they have shared. I saw how they initially trusted Daniel, and then, through the gradual progression of the coaching sessions with him, painfully realized they were being indoctrinated back into some of the very same repackaged Luciferian teachings they had not only experienced and vehemently opposed, but crucially desired to forsake all ties with.

When a house is on fire, it would be unconscionable to remain silent while all (including the head) in the house burned to death. They both see the fire of God’s wrath coming against deception, and truly want to pull as many as they can out of the fire!!!!  This has been Carolyn’s testimony long before her first interview with Daniel.

Ezekiel 33:4-6 Then if anyone hears the sound of the trumpet but fails to heed the warning, and the sword comes and takes him away, his blood will be on his own head. Since he heard the sound of the trumpet but failed to heed the warning, his blood will be on his own head. If he had taken warning, he would have saved his life. But if the watchman sees the sword coming and fails to blow the trumpet, so that the people are not warned, and the sword comes and takes away a life, then that one is taken away in his iniquity, but I will hold the watchman accountable for his blood.’

A Spiritual Detox

After I had privately repented, I realized I had much cleansing to go through.

⇒ I want to pause and publicly repent, renounce and divorce from all ties with Bride Ministries and all other ministries, doctrines, and teachings that don’t line up with the Word of God in context.

Two articles that I recommend reading are on Carolyn and Loren’s website: Tolerance is Not a Fruit of the Spirit and Discernment. They helped me understand that I needed to go on a spiritual detox. Just as I had been on a long physical detox journey from unhealthy eating, toxic chemicals, heavy metals, and parasites, my spiritual detox is the most important of all. I realized that the procedures I learned from Dr. Jay Davidson about physical detoxification (“5 Steps to Restoring Health Protocol”) can also be applied to a spiritual detox.

Matthew 17:21 But this kind does not come out except by prayer and fasting. (ESV)

Step 1: Detection

Physical: realizing a physical foreign infiltration.
Spiritual: realizing a spiritual foreign infiltration.

1 John 4:1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. (ESV)

Galatians 5:7-10 You were running well. Who hindered you, not to obey the truth? This persuasion is not of the One calling you. A little leaven leavens the whole lump. I am confident as to you in the Lord that you will have no other mind. But the one troubling you will bear the judgment, whoever he might be. (BLB)

Step 2: Drainage

Physical: Pathways must be opened in order to release and remove the invaders.
Spiritual: Pouring out my heart through weeping and repentance for all the sin I have not only believed and acted upon, but also spread to others; a thorough cleansing from filth (sin).

Acts 3:19 Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out. (ESV)

Ezekiel 14:6 Therefore tell the house of Israel that this is what the Lord GOD says: ‘Repent and turn away from your idols; turn your faces away from all your abominations. (BLB)

James 4:7-10 So humble yourselves before God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Come close to God, and God will come close to you. Wash your hands, you sinners; purify your hearts, for your loyalty is divided between God and the world. Let there be tears for what you have done. Let there be sorrow and deep grief. Let there be sadness instead of laughter, and gloom instead of joy. Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will lift you up in honor. (NLV)

Step 3:  Elihminate

Physical: Killing pathogens and ridding my body of toxins.
Spiritual: setting myself apart and ridding my spirit of toxic emotions and teachings.  Completely separating myself from wickedness and those who practice and promote wickedness; pursuing righteousness and holiness.

2 Cor 6:14-17 Do not become unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness? And what harmony has Christ with Belial? Or what part to a believer is with an unbeliever? And what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said: “I will dwell in them, and will walk among them; and I will be their God, and they will be My people.” “Therefore come out from their midst and be separate, says the Lord, and touch nothing unclean, and I will receive you.” (BLB)

2 Timothy 2:21 Therefore if anyone shall have cleansed himself from these, he will be a vessel for honor, having been sanctified, useful to the Master, having been prepared for every good work. (BLB)

Step 4: Rebuild

Physical: Pure water fasting, with intense research on what foods need to heal my body.
Spiritual: Prayer and Fasting (seeking God’s face; abstinence from false doctrines and programming; consuming pure living water, which is the written Word of God).

Joel 2:12-13 Yet even now, declares the LORD, return to Me with all your heart, with fasting, weeping, and mourning. So rend your hearts and not your garments, and return to the LORD your God. For He is gracious and compassionate, slow to anger, and abounding in loving devotion. And He relents from sending disaster. (BSB)

Matthew 17:21 But this kind does not come out except by prayer and fasting. (ESV)

Step 5: Detox

Physical: guarding what goes into my body to make sure it’s as clean as possible.
Spiritual: guarding what goes into my mind and spirit (e.g. His pure Word) to make sure I’m as clean as possible, and guard what comes out. Living in submission to His perfect plan (clinging to His righteousness, laying my life on His alter, obeying Him and His Word).

Matthew 10:28 Don’t be afraid of those who want to kill your body; they cannot touch your soul. Fear only God, who can destroy both soul and body in hell. (ESV)

2 Chronicles 30:8 Don’t become obstinate now like your fathers did. Give your allegiance to the Lord, and come to His sanctuary that He has consecrated forever. Serve the Lord your God so that He may turn his burning anger away from you, (CSB)

The most terrifying words imaginable are from Matthew 7:23: “And then will I declare to them, I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.” (ESV)

The Good News Translation words it this way:

“Not everyone who calls me ‘Lord, Lord’ will enter the Kingdom of heaven, but only those who do what my Father in heaven wants them to do. When the Judgment Day comes, many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord! In your name we spoke God’s message, by your name we drove out many demons and performed many miracles!’ Then I will say to them, ‘I never knew you. Get away from me, you wicked people!’”

The Prayer of my Heart

Those still involved in all false ministries most certainly need our prayers, and all ungodly soul ties broken. This is especially true of all teachers who will be judged more strictly. (James 3:1) I pray their eyes be opened and truth be revealed.

I also pray we continue to keep Carolyn and Loren in our prayers, as well as all who fearlessly seek to wholeheartedly obey our one and only Savior, Jesus Christ, Yeshua haMashiach.

And I pray that Carolyn and Loren, as well as all of us, will never cease and desist from shining the pure light on all evil wherever it may be found. My deepest prayer is that His pure light will lead all who practice evil darkness (in whatever capacity that is) to a complete and total repentance with an humble submissive spirit (as opposed to a controlling, manipulative spirit) to accomplish His will in these last days.

May we solely be yoked to our One True Messiah. He alone is our ultimate authority!

2 Samuel 10:12Be strong, and let us show strength for our people and for the cities of our Elohim, and let [Him] do what is good in His eyes.” (ISR 1998)

1 John 1:5-10 This is the message we have heard from Him and proclaim to you, that God is light, and in Him is no darkness at all. If we say we have fellowship with Him while we walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin. If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His Word is not in us. (ESV)

Ephesians 5: 6-14, 25-27 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. Therefore do not become partners with them; for at one time you were darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of light (for the fruit of light is found in all that is good and right and true) and try to discern what is pleasing to the Lord. Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them.  For it is shameful even to speak of the things that they do in secret. But when anything is exposed by the light, it becomes visible, for anything that becomes visible is light….

… Christ loved the church and gave Himself up for her, that He might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the Word, so that He might present the church to Himself in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be holy and without blemish. (ESV)

Rev 3:14-22 To the angel of the church in Laodicea write: These are the words of the Amen, the faithful and true Witness, the Originator of God’s creation. I know your deeds; you are neither cold nor hot. How I wish you were one or the other. So because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit you out of My mouth! You say, ‘I am rich; I have grown wealthy and need nothing.’ But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind, and naked. I counsel you to buy from Me gold refined by fire so that you may become rich, white garments so that you may be clothed and your shameful nakedness not exposed, and salve to anoint your eyes so that you may see. Those I love, I rebuke and discipline. Therefore, be earnest and repent. Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in and dine with him, and he with Me. To the one who is victorious, I will grant the right to sit with Me on My throne, just as I overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne. He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.” (BSB)

(emphasis added to the Scriptures)

My heart breaks for all who are being led into the deception of the evil one. I can certainly testify that I am one who was not only led down that dark shadowy path, but willingly followed, believing and accepting it to be the true way. If we remain silent and apathetic when we realize the tactics of the enemy, then we become lukewarm, apathetic, and complacent. I pray that all who read this will do their own research about these teachings and be led into the truth of our One and only Savior who is our Supreme Ruler, Jesus Christ, Yeshua haMashiach.

Blessings and Shalom,

~ Pam


What follows are some of the things I learned from researching the NAR, Dominionism, and the Seven-Mountain Mandate, as well as what I learned from researching Daniel’s teachings that parallel these unbiblical teachings.

NAR, Dominionism, and the Seven-Mountain Mandate

⇒ Note by Carolyn and Loren: aside from the resources Pam listed below, here are some links to a good website to learn more about the NAR, dominionism, and the “7-M Mandate.”

1. NAR —  http://www.letusreason.org/latrain21.htm
2. Dominionism http://www.letusreason.org/discern12.htm
3. 7-M Mandate (and Dominionism)
 — http://www.letusreason.org/Latrain89.htm and http://www.letusreason.org/Latrain90.htm

Duval’s quotes are taken from his books, which you can purchase here:

1. Kingdom Government and Sheep Nations
2. Higher Dimensions, Parallel Dimensions, and the Spirit Realm

(Links are for your convenience only. If you choose to purchase the books, we do not make any money off any purchase.)


Here are some of the things about NAR/Dominionism/Seven-Mountain Mandate that I found in my research:

From the article, “7 Mountain Politics and Theology,” posted by Marsha West (emphasis added):

“What is “7 Mountains” theology? Supposedly there are “7 mountains” of global society – Media, Government, Education, Economy, Religion, Entertainment and Family. Conquering these areas of influence is the key to taking a nation for the kingdom of God. The 7 Mountain mandate is the brainchild of the Dominionist movement. Over the years Dominionists have gone by many names including Latter Rain/Kingdom Now /Joel’s Army/Manifest Sons of God and most recently the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR).  Modern day “apostles” and “prophets” have a plan to aggressively “retake the reins of our country” for Christ. In other words, they believe that Christians must occupy and subdue the world as God’s stewards of the earth. Moreover these people believe it is a Christian’s duty to go into the world using “spiritual warfare” tactics to crush evil before Jesus Christ’s final return.”

It is now easy to see how the creation of these 7 mountains of global society led by “sheep nations” could lead to a one (united) world government as well as a one-world religion! Grievously, at the time I was associated with Bride Ministries, I didn’t even realize that Daniel’s teachings mirror this false doctrine.

In an article from “Got Questions” titled, “What is the seven mountain mandate, and is it biblical?” the author writes: “Lance P. Wallnau coined the term seven mountain mandate and is its most prominent teacher.”

The author then goes on to say:

“The NAR and proponents of the seven mountain mandate have abandoned biblical teaching on the end times, choosing to believe that Christians must set the stage for Jesus’ second coming by achieving dominion over the world’s systems. According to 7-M theology, Jesus will only return to a world that mirrors the kingdom of God. This idea parallels the New Age teaching that anticipates a cosmic spiritual shift when man becomes a co-redeemer of Planet Earth.”

When I went to Wallnau’s website, he lists the seven mountains that need to be spiritually infiltrated by “godly men” prior to the millenial reign. According to Wallnau’s own words, “7M” stands for “the seven domains that shape the minds of nations. They are the ultimate powers that mold the culture.” (Emphasis mine)

This is not Biblical!

According to a quote on “Wikipedia” from an article entitled “New Apostolic Reformation”:

Forrest Wilder, an environmental-issues writer for the Texas Observer, describes the New Apostolic Reformation as having “taken Pentecostalism, with its emphasis on ecstatic worship and the supernatural, and given it an adrenaline shot.” Wilder adds that beliefs of people associated with the movement “can tend toward the bizarre” and that it has “taken biblical literalism to an extreme.”

Below is an excerpt from “What is the New Apostolic Reformation?” from “Got Questions” which describes dominionism and spiritual warfare from the NAR point of view. (Emphasis mine)

According to New Apostolic thinking, mankind lost its dominion over earth as part of the fall of Adam. So Jesus’ sacrifice on the cross not only resolved our sin debt, but it empowered mankind—specifically, Christians—to retake control of the earth. The New Apostolic Reformation sees seven areas in which believers are supposedly empowered and expected to dominate: government, arts, finances, education, religion, family, and media. Of these, the New Apostolic Reformation sees government as the most important because of its ability to influence all of the other facets of life. As a result, the New Apostolic Reformation overtly encourages Christian control over politics, culture, and business. In some ways, this is nothing unusual, as people should be expected to vote and lobby according to their convictions. The New Apostolic Reformation, however, is often accused of pushing for outright theocracy.*

Spiritual warfare, according to the New Apostolic Reformation, is meant to resolve worldly concerns. For example, economic troubles or health problems in a particular city are seen as the result of a demonic spirit’s influence. Prayer, research into the specific name of that demon, and other spiritual disciplines are then applied in an effort to combat this presence. This is necessary not only for the health of the region, but also because the church cannot take “dominion” over that area until the demonic control has been lifted.

Here’s one Scripture that shows the deception of this teaching, and explains why this “dominionism” is not of God:

John 18:36 “Jesus answered, “My Kingdom is not an earthly kingdom. If it were, my followers would fight to keep me from being handed over to the Jewish leaders. But my Kingdom is not of this world.” (NLT, emphasis added)

And the article, “pt.3 Strategies of an earthly war for God,” by “Let Us Reason Ministries,” clearly shows the dangers of this “Dominionism/7-M Mandate” teachings (emphasis original to the article):

The warfare strategy: Lance Wallnau writes: “if the world is to be won, these are the mountains that mold the culture and the minds of men. Whoever controls these mountains controls the direction of the world and the harvest therein.”(A Prophetic, Biblical, and Personal Call to the Marketplace, privately circulated paper, nd., np.) bold mine

Wallnau also states on one of his teaching by video That Jesus will not come back until we take these mountains. “There is no prevailing apostolic vision because of the mischief of eschatology. Because most believers are AFRAID to take on the giants in their nations” (the 7 mountain) Wallnau thinks this is the reason, saying, “we created a theology that eliminates the responsibility for having to take territory and rather focuses on just getting people saved so when Jesus comes back He can repopulate the earth with people that are followers and let him take over the planet.”

How many problems can one create in a short statement? Like or not that is exactly as it will transpire; read Mt.24-25. All those who enter the Millennium period (the kingdom age) are saved (Isa 65). There will be those born afterwards who will not be, but when Jesus returns all those who took the mark are history, removed from the earth. Which according to the Bible is the majority of the world in the tribulation; the saints are being eliminated by the shining ones of the false Messiah in the Tribulation (Rev.13). This is God’s way to remove the 7 mountains.

The Bible says we wait for the Son from heaven (Phil. 3:20; 1 Thess. 1:20; Heb.9:20b), i.e.; as they waited for the Holy Spirit at Pentecost. Jesus brings the kingdom to earth by Him being physically present ruling from Jerusalem. There is no kingdom overtaking the earth with the king not physically here. This dominionist eschatology is man centered (in Jesus’ name of course), we do it for him. Wallnau has it backwards, the nation’s become His BECAUSE He returns. The Father gave them all to the Son (Ps.2), not us.

Daniel’s Teachings on NAR doctrine, Dominionism, and the Seven-Mountain Mandate

Even though I have never heard Daniel claim to be NAR, and even though he says he doesn’t ascribe to “dominionism” or to the “Seven-Mountain Mandate,” here are his own words that describes his views on these types of NAR teachings.

On pages 216-217 of his book, “Kingdom Government and Sheep Nations,” Duval communicates his opinion of Dominionism and the Seven-Mountain Mandate, writing:

“Beginning in 1975 with Bill Bright and Loren Cunningham, who independently received what has come to be known as the revelation of the “seven mountains,” God has been communicating to the body of Christ that there are seven major mind molders, or mountains in any given society. On this note I will take the time to mention that this term has become a point of conflict within the the body of Christ. Due to its association with a perspective on eschatology known as Dominionism, and its embrace by the New Apostolic Reformation, some have rejected its implications without further investigation. I believe that this is truly unfortunate. I have to thank Lance Wallnau for bringing understanding to so many regarding these things. While I do not ascribe to Dominionism as he does, I am very grateful for the wisdom and insights that the Lord has blessed him with. His famous teaching on the seven mountains has sown the seed of possibility in the the minds of many.” (emphasis mine)

Then on page 219, Daniel writes:

The kingdom of heaven has the power to overtake all of the kingdoms of this world and utilize them according to the power and glory of God. Jesus died to restore this power to man. In spite of this, there is a war being waged for the kingdoms of this world. Their redemption has been purchased, but Satan hold onto them illegally. The kingdoms are not simply political institution. They are the seven basic realms of influence that govern human existence. (emphasis mine)

He then goes into teaching Wallnau’s “7-Mountain Mandate,” stating:

Lance [Wallnau] suggests that Jesus was shown seven mountains, and upon the seven mountains that Jesus was shown were seven portals into the spirit realm. The portals upon the mountains represent the kingdoms of this world. Those who are put in control of the mountains can decide what can and cannot come through from the spirit realm. In other words, the people that are put in power control how each mountain will impact society and culture.

Lance suggests this? What about what the Bible says?!

Duval then continues on pages 219-220:

What are these mountains? According to Lance, we can look at it in the following way. These are the seven mountains which must be redeemed by the kingdom of God in order to implement kingdom culture and ultimately sheep nations:

1. Spirituality/Religion
2. Family
3. Education/Technology
4. Government
5. Media
6. Arts/Entertainment
7. Business/Economics

This is Daniel’s teaching on the 7-Mountain Mandate, a teaching that is tied to the NAR!

Right after discussing this “seven mountain mandate” by Lance, Daniel then teaches on ruling and governing realms before Messiah could return. On page 221, he writes (emphasis is in the original text):

“This is the new paradigm that must arise: We are not waiting for Jesus; Jesus is waiting for us. We are to begin the process of taking the kingdoms of this world and influencing them according to the power of the kingdom of God. Jesus will not wait forever. He is going to accelerate those who will remain faithful into the destiny he has appointed for the church. Unfortunately, the realization of the gospel of the kingdom will not occur until the church is in the midst of the darkest period human history will ever record. As we move into this season of history, geographies that have come under a heavy influence of kingdom government will be known as sheep nations. On the road to this destiny, the greatest miracles ever recorded will be witnessed, and I believe the greatest revival of all time will manifest.”

We are not waiting for Jesus?! This is not Biblical!

Hebrews 9:27-28 Just as man is appointed to die once, and after that to face judgment, so also Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many; and He will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who eagerly await Him. (BSB, emphasis added)

Also see: 1 Thessalonians 1:10; 1 Corinthians 1:7; Titus 2:13; Jude 1:21; Philippians 3:20; 2 Peter 3:21.

He also reiterated this idea on page 382, where he states:

“In order for Jesus to judge nations like sheep after his second coming, these nations must arise and be in operation on earth before his return.” (Emphasis mine)

This parallels NAR teachings, and is not Scriptural!

Daniel writes on page 220:

A third approach looks at the seven mountains upon which the Whore of Babylon sits. This passage has been approached in various ways, often with an attempt to use the description of seven mountains as a geographic marker. In this way, some have concluded that Rome, which sits on seven hills, is where we would find the Whore of Babylon. I would challenge this idea on the basis that there are nearly seventy geographies throughout the world that claim to reside upon seven hills or mountains. It makes just as much sense to me to interpret this passage in light of the seven mind molders of society, which the Whore of Babylon undeniably occupies in most areas of the world. Although I do not believe this is the only or ultimate interpretation of this passage, it is certainly relevant. (emphasis mine)

He then quotes Revelation 17:1,3,9:

And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters… So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten hornsAnd here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. (emphasis is Duval’s)

So if Daniel believes it’s possible that the Seven-Mountain Mandate that he’s teaching on, is speaking of the seven mountains spoken of in Revelation, then is he self-identifying as being part of the “Whore of Babylon”?!

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I pray that the eyes of him and all who subscribe to this false dominionism theology will be opened to the truth!

Daniel’s Teachings on Spirit Man

Here are some things that, according to his book, Duval teaches about the “Spirit Man.”

On page 11 of “Kingdom Government and the Promise of Sheep Nations,” he writes:

“It is important to understand that our spirit can still become filthy, even after being joined to the Holy Spirit (2 Cor 7:1). We must seek to preserve it blameless, just like our soul and our body (1 Thes 5:23). Although the Holy Spirit enters our spirit and becomes one with it, he does not completely replace it. The Holy Spirit comes to live inside our spirit, but our spirit remains an individual spirit.” (emphasis mine)

(Links to read the Bible verses in context that Duval referred to: 2 Corinthians 7:1 and 1 Thessalonians 5:23.)

If the Holy Spirit becomes one with our spirit, and yet our spirit remains an individual spirit, then if we do not test the spirits we can subject our spirit to become defiled, thus making us (our individual spirit and demonic spirits that we have allowed in) one with the Holy Spirit. Is this Biblical? God’s Spirit would never allow Himself to be defiled by whatever we give permission to enter into it. Duval’s teaching about this just doesn’t make sense, and he is applying Scripture in ways that pervert the true meaning.

Next, using this concept as a springboard, Duval goes on to explain the “need” to divide the soul and spirit on page 12 of the same chapter (emphasis his):

“The heart, being our subconscious, should be understood as the gateway between our soul and spirit. It is here that the Word of God divides between what is of the soul, and what is of the spirit.”

Then, he quotes Hebrews 4:12 as his reference: “For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.” [emphasis by Duval]

He then goes on to say:

“It is clear from this passage that the Word of God is intended to do its work in our heart. First, it divides what is spirit from what is soul.” (emphasis mine)

But a proper study of Scripture shows that this verse does not exactly say what Duval is trying to make it say (http://biblehub.com/text/hebrews/4-12.htm).

Furthermore, Luke 11:17 says: Knowing their thoughts, he told them, “Every kingdom divided against itself is headed for destruction, and a house divided against itself falls. (CSB)

A little further down, Daniel then states (emphasis mine):

“This becomes the essential link between everything that God intended for us to be, and the reality that we experience. The heart, being the subconscious becomes the seat of human intuition. It receives and processes information from multiple inputs. Input comes from a physical level, a soul level, or a spiritual level.”

This sure sounds like programming to me!

Jeremiah 17:9-10 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately sick; who can understand it? “I the LORD search the heart and test the mind, to give every man according to his ways, according to the fruit of his deeds.” (ESV)

Hosea 10:2 Their heart is divided; now shall they be found faulty: he shall break down their altars, he shall spoil their images. (KJV)

I highly recommend reading “Doctrines of Demons: Exposing Christian Witchcraft” by Loren and Carolyn, in section 3 of their book, for a detailed explanation of the Spirit Man teaching.

Daniel’s Teachings on Programming

On page 31 of “Kingdom Government and the Promise of Sheep Nations,” although Daniel doesn’t use the word “spiritual evolution or promotion,” he describes this concept by using the phrase “higher levels of glory,” and ties it in with programming.

“As we move into higher levels of glory, our hearts are being reprogrammed to heavenly realities more and more. The greater the glory, the less time this reprogramming takes. However, this must first begin with the heart belief that it is possible.” (emphasis mine)

“All of this is necessary to establish a heavenly society on earth with heavenly culture. This is central to the work Christ accomplished at Cavalry.”

“This glory can only be properly accessed out of a pure heart towards God. To access this glory for the unity requires a new program to be written in the hearts of the people of God. This program is the kingdom of God. This happened for a moment in the first church, but God is going to bring his global church back to this point before his Son returns.” (page 33, emphasis mine)

“The glory of God is the highway to reprogramming the hearts within an entire geography.” (page 35, emphasis mine)

The instances where Daniel refers to “program” or “programming” are too numerous to cite in this article, but in his book, Kingdom Government and Sheep Nations,” he uses the word and variations of the word “program” 51 times; and in his book, “Higher Dimensions Parallel Dimensions, and the Spirit Realm,” he uses the word and variations of the word 30 times!

God doesn’t program people!

Daniel’s Teachings on Angels

An excerpt from Duval’s book, “Higher Dimensions, Parallel Dimensions & the Spirit Realm,” on page 155, gives an example of talking to, partnering with, and being guided by “angels.” He writes (emphasis mine):

On another occasion, a woman told me that she had a dream that she was locked up in an underwater prison. Not only was she locked up in this prison, but so was her car, the promissory note for her house as well as a number of other individuals. Since I knew what I was dealing with, I had the angels of the Lord escort her to the prison during our ministry session. Immediately (without leaving her body) she realized that she was at the underwater prison, as she had been escorted there by the angels of the Lord.

This “ordering of angels around” or “partnering with angels” is not Scriptural, so I wonder what “angels” Daniel is actually dealing with?

This is just one example of Daniel’s teachings on angels. There are dozens more examples, and there isn’t the room here to mention them all. If you so desire, you can read his book for yourself to see more examples, or watch any one of his YouTube videos. He talks a lot about his views on angels in his YouTube videos.

Scriptures to Consider

But here are some Scriptures to consider when examining Daniel’s teachings, or anyone’s teachings (emphasis added):

Isaiah 14:13-15 You said to yourself, “I will ascend to the heavens; I will set up my throne above the stars of God. I will sit on the mount of the gods’ assembly, in the remotest parts of the North. I will ascend above the highest clouds; I will make myself like the Most High. But you will be brought down to Sheol into the deepest regions of the Pit.” (CSB)

Colossians 2:18-19 Let no one disqualify you, insisting on asceticism and worship of angels, going on in detail about visions, puffed up without reason by his sensuous mind and not holding fast to the Head, from whom the whole body, nourished and knit together through its joints and ligaments, grows with a growth that is from God. (ESV)

Matthew 16:24-26 Then Yeshua said to His taught ones, “If anyone wishes to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his stake, and follow Me. “For whoever wishes to save his life shall lose it, and whoever loses his life for My sake shall find it. “For what is a man profited if he gains all the world, and loses his own life? Or what shall a man give in exchange for his life? (ISR 1998)

John 12:24-25 Truly, truly, I say to you, unless a grain of wheat falls into the earth and dies, it remains alone; but if it dies, it bears much fruit. Whoever loves his life loses it, and whoever hates his life in this world will keep it for eternal life. (ESV)

Mark 6:7-9 Then Jesus called the Twelve to Him and began to send them out two by two, giving them authority over unclean spirits. He instructed them to take nothing but a staff for the journey—no bread, no bag, no money in their belts— and to wear sandals, but not a second tunic. (BSB)

1 John 2:15-27  Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For everything in the world ​— ​the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride in one’s possessions ​— ​is not from the Father, but is from the world. And the world with its lust is passing away, but the one who does the will of God remains forever.

Children, it is the last hour. And as you have heard that antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. By this we know that it is the last hour.  They went out from us, but they did not belong to us; for if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us. However, they went out so that it might be made clear that none of them belongs to us.

But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth. I have not written to you because you don’t know the truth, but because you do know it, and because no lie comes from the truth.  Who is the liar, if not the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This one is the antichrist: the one who denies the Father and the Son. No one who denies the Son has the Father; he who confesses the Son has the Father as well.

What you have heard from the beginning is to remain in you. If what you have heard from the beginning remains in you, then you will remain in the Son and in the Father. And this is the promise that he himself made to us: eternal life.

I have written these things to you concerning those who are trying to deceive you. As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you don’t need anyone to teach you. Instead, his anointing teaches you about all things and is true and is not a lie; just as it has taught you, remain in him. (CSB)


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