Tolerance is Not a Fruit of the Spirit

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As you probably already know, we have set up a “Testimonials” page for people to share their testimonies of how the Father has delivered them from false teachers, false prophets, harmful ministries, and from false (satanic) doctrine. We recently added a little something to this page, however, that you may not have noticed. Directly preceding the contact form, we added this statement:

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Discernment

There is a trend within occult circles that has been around for quite some time now, whereby certain people engage in channeling and automatic writing. In other words, they will say they have a “word from Spirit,” or a “word from this angel or that angel,” or a word from “this Ascended Master or that Ascended Master,” or a “proclamation from certain light beings,” and then share it either via spoken word or, quite often, through written word. You can pick up many books by famous (or, infamous…?) occultists and will see evidence of this channeling, as well as the related automatic writing. Furthermore, with the internet widely available across the world now, it’s easy to find many different websites whose contributors write down and share the words from these supposed “divine,” or supernatural, or “light” beings.

But while this trend has always been common in occult circles, it has now become progressively common amongst so-called “Christian circles.” There are an increasing number of people who claim to have a “word from God” or who say, “Jesus Christ gave me these words and I wrote them down or here’s what he said.” Or even, “Spirit told me this thing,” or, “my angel said the other thing,” or “this light being showed me this.”

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Update: New Resources

We have added a few new pages to our blog today. You can find all these resources here: https://askcarolynandloren.com/resources-ecw/.

On this page, we have our original resources listed: our book, “Doctrines of Demons: Exposing Christian Witchcraft,” as well as our video series we did on “Exposing Christian Witchcraft.” But we have added a few more helpful pages. They are:

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Q&A: Gateways

Question/Comment

This is mostly a comment, but it’s an important one. And it’s good to know that through the book that Carolyn and I wrote, people are starting to make connections for themselves about the occult doctrines that have begun to infiltrate into mainstream Christianity. 🙂

I’m nearly done with your book, and I appreciate all the time and effort. Wow. A huge accomplishment. As I was reading, I remembered Ian Clayton on [YouTube], and he was teaching a great deal of what is in the book. He had many of the buzzwords of engagement, gates, and even talked about [making] the spirit man come out of the body and be over the body. Huh? Totally bizarre. Have you heard of him?

I already personally responded to this individual, but I decided to address this here (adding a lot more info than I gave in the email response, because that’s just how I roll… 😀 ), because it’s important that people are warned away from these false doctrines.

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Q & A: Why Does Scripture Not Positively Affect Occult Infiltrators?

Question

We’ve received an email from a reader who asks the following:

I was wondering why luciferians who are the infiltrators in churches and tv programs knowingly teach on scriptures? For instance, let’s take Ken Copeland or any wolf of choice. Years ago, I used to listen to him. He’d teach on some powerful scriptures such as the ones in Eph 3 about God’s love and His amazing abilities which we cannot fully understand. I’m using the verses at the end of that chapter because I just got done reading that third chapter. When Ken knows that those verses are about our true biblical God, how can he preach with such joy and enthusiasm when he isn’t even interested in our precious Lord. Ken serves a different God. I can understand how you and Carolyn could do it because you were deceived that you were in the right camp, I don’t understand how the fake people can do this? Do they think that the Bible is a joke and a fictional book while they deliberately lead the masses astray? And pretend to be full of joy? Are they simply good actors? If so, one would think that eventually the powerful Word would convict and deal with their wicked hearts after decades of this sort of thing.

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Additional Info about Occult Training

In my last post (Q&A: Luciferianism, Occult Training, and Dispelling Some Misunderstandings), so much was going on in my head with all the connections I was trying to make for you, the reader, that I forgot to share one very important aspect of occult training!

Sorry ’bout that. :\

I shared about my experiences with occult schools in the astral, and I shared about my experiences with charismatic “christian” training in the physical that was teaching occult doctrine, but I forgot to share about charismatic “christian” occult schools in the supernatural. And to be clear: I’m aware that it’s not actually Christian, but the people who are involved in this call themselves “christian.” It’s all a part of this wave of “charismatic witchcraft” that has infiltrated Christian groups, and I’ll just briefly share my experience with this type of training.

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Q&A: Luciferianism, Occult Training, and Dispelling Some Misunderstandings

I (Loren) don’t generally like talking about my background a lot. First, it is difficult to adequately describe my background because it is a confusing jumble of layers that I have had to wade through in order to sift the truth from the lies. And when issues surrounding my dissociation are added into the mix, I’m not sure if addressing questions people have about me actually answers those questions, or simply adds more confusion. Aside from this, I also have a fear that I might be glorifying or drawing undue attention towards things that are not of God. That’s not my intention, and so now I try to be very careful about what I share and how I share.

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Q&A: So, what IS the name of that magazine you mentioned, anyway…?

Last September, Carolyn was made aware that a “christian” magazine was preparing to publish altered transcripts of what had initially been private conversations between herself and two others. Well before the expected publishing date, Carolyn reached out to the individuals involved in this plan, including the editor-in-chief of this “christian” magazine, along with a few other witnesses, including myself. She made very clear that not only were the transcripts incorrect, but that she did not give permission for these transcripts to be made public.

She was informed that the article was going to be published anyway.

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Dissociation, Fragmentation, and Spiritual Prisons

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We’ve received emails from several people asking questions about and wanting to discuss dissociation and fragmentation, as well as the idea of parts of them being taken or stuck in different demonic realms. The following are a portion of some of the emails.

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On the “Selling of Prayers”

Today, Carolyn brought to my attention an advertisement that she received in her email from the sham of a ministry, “Bride Ministries,” that the both of us used to be associated with. Although the journey was difficult, our Heavenly Father was gracious and merciful enough to open our eyes and free us from that bondage.

(See: http://beyondthephysical.blogspot.com/2016/12/why-i-left-bride-ministries.html)

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